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week 16 of sc 5sg proto this place is definitely a pump, if it was a filter i would have been gone in NFAS
As a former instructor of the S8G prototype, in lovely Ballston Spa NY, I would have to say that the system is most definately a pump. It was hard for us to even propose that we get rid of any of the dumb kids, let alone ones that somehow managed to survive to week 24. As an example - The legend of the Soup Pirate.So, there I was, it was a cold, harsh winter, and the snow storms managed to knock out the power. A student that ended up in my section decided that during the cold, she wanted to warm up with a nice warm can of soup. Now, normal people take the soup out of the can when they heat up their soup... not the Soup Pirate. She slapped that can of warm delicious broth on the stovetop and turned it on. A few minutes later, Soup Pirate decided it was warm enough and turned the stove off. Now, comes the tricky part. Opening the can of soup.Yep - you guessed it. IN THE FACE!!! The scalding hot soup expelled from the canister into her face and gave he second degree burns to her eyelid, and the good ol' clinic gave her a complimentary eye patch.She is now a qualified member of the Surface Fleet.....
Im curious what hiring managers think when they read these kinds of threads...
From my experience, the non-hackers and slack asses won't typically make it through an well conducted interview anyway. Do some slip through? Yes, but like Mac alluded to, they will be weeded out eventually. One thing is for certain, commercial ops ain't pumping anyone through anything.
They do not need these threads to determine the worth of an ex-navy nuke. They hire them and see their results in their training program.As a point of reference a particular company that hires ex-nav-nukes has seen them just barely make it through the program whereas the non-nav-nukes do a better job in training. I would also add the non-nav-nukes have a better attitude about 50% of the time. A total plus for off the street non-nav-nukes.These threads just advertise the demise of a once guaranteed good product to the rest of the world.YMWV
I would also add the non-nav-nukes have a better attitude about 50% of the time. A total plus for off the street non-nav-nukes.
What I meant was that from my experience for every nav-nuke that had a good attitude you could find that number plus an additional 50% (i.e. more) that had a equal too or better attitude (re: non-nav-nukes). Mac
I think I have confused you. Yes, I am sure that is true for all nav-nuke generations. But, this attitude issue is or was not even a blip on the radar with the pre'1995 (ish) nav-nukes. It is a major problem with the post'1995 (ish) nav-nukes. It has caught or training departments attention. And not in a good way. Mac
I think that the poor attitude comes from the fact that the Nuclear Navy tends to dick people over into a certain level of grudging dissatisfaction and marginal ability to work. I know that when I reported onboard the Hate My Job, I was enthusiastic about things and gung-ho about qualifying and learning my field.
Were you "old timers" (pre 95' as per mac's statement) "brainwashed" like we were?
How about pre-1985 in the late 70's there wasn't a lot of influx yet but it was starting. I saw a lot of changes toward the Navy way of doing things including hiring ex-Navy admirals to honcho troubled plants. It did not take long to saturate and adapt to a middle ground, by the 90s Navy influence was a "been there done that".
Oldhp, you were interviewing people 12 years before I was born :p
The creation/formation of INPO (post-TMI) 'with a heavy Navy influence', created a demand for NNPP experience; however, the commercial industry adapted to the 'INPO Standards' and found out quickly that they could train locals to do the task at hand (all areas) with less cost and risk!JMO
I have to agree with that, INPO was staffed by a lot of "Ring Knockers". But then INPO and Navy influence brought not just the people but the programs (including training) to a different level, there was a coal burner mentality that was common in Nukes before then.
Greetings,I've been reading through posts on here with great interest because my son is interested in joining the Navy. He originally wanted to become a corpsman. However, due to several factors, among them: there would be a long waiting list, my wife's strong objection to his being attached to a Marine combat unit, the high score he recorded on the little "pre-Asvab" test they give in the recruiter's office, he's now looking at becoming a nuke.Anyway, that's why I'm here.As to the morale and attitude issue, please know that in my industry, semiconductor manufacturing, we still look very favorably upon resumes of former Navy nukes. Other than the almost certainty that they are quirky, we know their breadth of knowledge makes them good candidates to be equipment maintenance technicians in our fabs.
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