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Is it just me, or is anyone else waiting for a contract to pop up in Japan?

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« on: Mar 14, 2011, 01:27 »
I know, I know...I'm a vulture! But somebodies got to be natures trash man!!

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« Reply #1 on: Mar 14, 2011, 08:55 »
You disgust me.

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 14, 2011, 12:41 »
You disgust me.

Why? money makes the world go round. Someones gotta clean it up... Profiteering off catastrophy isnt ideal, but if the opportunity is there, why not?

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« Reply #3 on: Mar 14, 2011, 12:56 »
   I did a little hazardous material retrieval for Katrina. Would not want to work or live in a disaster zone again. I lived in an RV on an Airport tarmac, most restaurants and stores were still shutdown so meals were served in tents by FEMA/EPA. I dealt with many of the victims as we had to get permission to enter their property if possible to retrieve tanks and material. Some of the retrieval was done on acres of debris that had been subdivisions reduced to a pile, seeing and walking on children's toys and peoples memories mixed in with house debris was not pleasant.
 
This would not be an outage with a nice motel room.

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 14, 2011, 01:01 »
Actually, whether anyone is disgusted or appalled by your question is a moot point.

The bottom line is that someone has to clean it up.
TMI, Chernobyl, Love Canal, none of them glamorous but a lot of people got paid.

The timing of your question may not be so glamorous but there will be contracts popping up before we know it.
You know what I like? You were the only one with the onions to ask the question.

Monster.com, start the bidding....

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« Reply #5 on: Mar 14, 2011, 02:46 »
Yes, all up in it to go. Got the go ahead from the wife and everything.  ;D
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Re: Japan
« Reply #6 on: Mar 14, 2011, 04:27 »
I dunno about being vultures, but if Palo Verde blew, I would want every money hungry foriegn tech on the job to clean it up here so my kids don't grow up in it. Haven't talked to the wife yet about it, but I am sure she would support me to MOB as soon as the spot opened.


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« Reply #7 on: Mar 14, 2011, 06:58 »
Maybe our plants could pay our regular salary and send us there to help on a volunteer basis.  The industry as a whole will suffer from bad publicity and that would be a good start to help people and save a little face in the process.

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« Reply #8 on: Mar 14, 2011, 07:16 »
Maybe our plants could pay our regular salary and send us there to help on a volunteer basis.  The industry as a whole will suffer from bad publicity and that would be a good start to help people and save a little face in the process.

While I admire your heart, thats just not feasible. Highly skilled labor = $$$. Nature of the beast. That'd be like asking the plant workers to not accept overtime during an outage to "help the company and industry grow"...

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« Reply #9 on: Mar 14, 2011, 07:44 »
While I admire your heart, thats just not feasible. Highly skilled labor = $$$. Nature of the beast. That'd be like asking the plant workers to not accept overtime during an outage to "help the company and industry grow"...

Actually it is not as unfeasible as you might think.  Within hours after the problems at TMI there were a lot of folks from other utilities on site at no cost to "Met Ed".  Including the then president of Duke Power, the Plant Manager and most of the senior staff of MNS, and two SS's from ONS (sister plant).  Granted it was mostly east coast utilities, but SCE kicked in two Sr Rad Engineers.  I know because I spent two months there.

The industry is (was) quick to respond when others have problems!
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 14, 2011, 07:54 »
Actually it is not as unfeasible as you might think.  Within hours after the problems at TMI there were a lot of folks from other utilities on site at no cost to "Met Ed".  Including the then president of Duke Power, the Plant Manager and most of the senior staff of MNS, and two SS's from ONS (sister plant).  Granted it was mostly east coast utilities, but SCE kicked in two Sr Rad Engineers.  I know because I spent two months there.

The industry is (was) quick to respond when others have problems!

Well, that was a different nation back then, and also wasnt an international event. Id say its a great idea, just doesnt seem like a realistic goal. Who knows, hopefully we can pull through this on top, thatd be the best for everyone.

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« Reply #11 on: Mar 14, 2011, 08:49 »
I'm guessing that WANO and INPO will at some point establish a presence of industry leading "shared resources".
Aside from the goodwill that it might gain for the industry as a whole, recovery from this will be an invaluable learning opportunity.
Anyone who gets a chance to go, should consider it.  Big $$$ aside, it will look good on your resume.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 14, 2011, 10:47 »
I'm guessing that WANO and INPO will at some point establish a presence of industry leading "shared resources".
Aside from the goodwill that it might gain for the industry as a whole, recovery from this will be an invaluable learning opportunity.
Anyone who gets a chance to go, should consider it.  Big $$$ aside, it will look good on your resume.

Very correct!   +K

That is why INPO and then WANO were brought into existance, the creation lead by that same DPC President!

Well, that was a different nation back then, and also wasnt an international event.

It may have been a "different nation, back then", but it was an international event!  Just search the press releaces in France, England, and Germany from 1979!  Learn your History! 

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Re: Japan
« Reply #13 on: Mar 15, 2011, 11:58 »
Just search the press releaces in France, England, and Germany from 1979!  Learn your History! 

Releases      ;)   :P
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 15, 2011, 12:27 »
It may have been a "different nation, back then", but it was an international event!  Just search the press releaces in France, England, and Germany from 1979!  Learn your History! 

Speaking of 1979 history  >:(

Germany Halts All Pre-1980 Nuclear Power Plants to Conduct Safety Reviews
By Tony Czuczka and Nicholas Comfort - Mar 15, 2011 5:59 AM MT


Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel. Photographer: Michele Tantussi/Bloomberg
Japan’s Stricken Nuclear Power Plant Rocked By Blasts

Germany is halting its seven oldest nuclear reactors as part of a nationwide safety review to run through June after the explosions at reactors in Japan, Chancellor Angela Merkel said.

The federal government and premiers of the German states where nuclear-power stations are located agreed that facilities “that began operation before the end of 1980 are being stopped for the duration of the moratorium,” Merkel said after a meeting in Berlin today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-15/german-pre-1980-nuclear-plants-to-be-halted-merkel-says.html

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« Reply #15 on: Mar 15, 2011, 12:46 »
Speaking of 1979 history  >:(

Germany Halts All Pre-1980 Nuclear Power Plants to Conduct Safety Reviews
By Tony Czuczka and Nicholas Comfort - Mar 15, 2011 5:59 AM MT


Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel. Photographer: Michele Tantussi/Bloomberg
Japan’s Stricken Nuclear Power Plant Rocked By Blasts

Germany is halting its seven oldest nuclear reactors as part of a nationwide safety review to run through June after the explosions at reactors in Japan, Chancellor Angela Merkel said.

The federal government and premiers of the German states where nuclear-power stations are located agreed that facilities “that began operation before the end of 1980 are being stopped for the duration of the moratorium,” Merkel said after a meeting in Berlin today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-15/german-pre-1980-nuclear-plants-to-be-halted-merkel-says.html

2 Thumbs up. But is that realistic?
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 15, 2011, 12:48 »
2 Thumbs up. But is that realistic?

Is what realistic? They are going poles in the holes this week...

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« Reply #17 on: Mar 15, 2011, 12:52 »
The Obama administration hasn’t backed off plans to promote nuclear power despite major damage at several reactors in Japan following a massive earthquake.

White House spokesman Jay Carney on Monday said President Obama continues to include nuclear power as part of a broader plan to develop more energy for the United States.

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« Reply #18 on: Mar 15, 2011, 12:59 »
Is what realistic? They are going poles in the holes this week...

I mean tto shut down power to so many people. I guess they must have a conventional backup in place.

*brain fart ROFL
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Re: Japan
« Reply #19 on: Mar 15, 2011, 01:02 »
Just be sure to set your background a little higher. This pic is in a city located about 50 miles west
« Last Edit: Mar 15, 2011, 01:04 by HydroDave63 »

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« Reply #20 on: Mar 15, 2011, 02:04 »
I mean tto shut down power to so many people. I guess they must have a conventional backup in place.

*brain fart ROFL

with clarification, it is a reasonable question. Germany has a lot of variable wind generation, and plenty of trades get made throughout the European Union, so most likely their imported megawatts will come from Polish coal and French nuclear.

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« Reply #21 on: Mar 15, 2011, 09:35 »
Just saw a report from the Today show saying they only have 50 techs and engineers left in the plant and they are having a real difficult time keeping coolant going into the reactor chamber. Not good for the people in the area.  :(
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 16, 2011, 02:52 »
We're starting to hear rumors about "the contract" for Japan. Any suggestions on where to look to confirm or deny the rumors?

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« Reply #23 on: Mar 16, 2011, 03:26 »
None of those apply to the question. AH

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« Reply #24 on: Mar 16, 2011, 08:26 »
   

ERDC team:

 

USACE is querying its team looking for persons with issues surrounding nuclear reactors and radioactive materials.  We are canvassing USACE to generate a database of knowledgeable professionals in the areas of structural, environmental, contaminated debris management and nuclear power generation specialists--relative to nuclear power generation and radioactive materials/debris.

 

If you have the experience as described and are interested in a possible mission, please contact Gus Black (eroc@usace.army.mil) through your first-line supervisor.  Please understand, at this time, we are only trying to develop a list of interested/qualified personnel.  USACE does not have a mission at this time.

 


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