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DeNuke
RRhoads:
BC
you say that
"The gov't per-diem rate for that area is around $300. So, $105 isn't that great"
I remember when the rate was like..$14 & $50 for a SR HP tech & like $6 & $40 for a JR HP tech with Bartlett...
So the money is pretty descent.
Competition is a good thing..even if is just ONE outage...Even the Bartlett office people agree...
I believe that you do a safety gig...maybe you were once a road tech...but i don't think it is fair to slam a new company for what they pay.
Remember....they paid Mike to post on HIS web site!
Druid:
Since the posting is gone I don't know what area it was, but only Vail, CO in winter has a government per diem rate around $300. After that you have levels around $250 for Manhattan, beach areas(MA, MD and NJ) in summer and some other ski areas, then the next batch is around $200.
Already Gone:
--- Quote from: RRhoads on Mar 14, 2005, 11:59 ---BC
you say that
"The gov't per-diem rate for that area is around $300. So, $105 isn't that great"
I remember when the rate was like..$14 & $50 for a SR HP tech & like $6 & $40 for a JR HP tech with Bartlett...
So the money is pretty descent.
Competition is a good thing..even if is just ONE outage...Even the Bartlett office people agree...
I believe that you do a safety gig...maybe you were once a road tech...but i don't think it is fair to slam a new company for what they pay.
Remember....they paid Mike to post on HIS web site!
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Yeah, and gasoline was $0.35 a gallon when I got my license. What does that have to do with today?
Just to please you nitpickers, I looked up the the actual per diem rate for Westchester County NY. It is $168. So, they are paying you 62.5% of the GSA rate for the area. Compare that to the $85 - $95 that most outages pay, where the GSA rate is $91. The per-diem for this job is not bad. It is also not great. What did I say that was incorrect? I didn't think so. The point is that they may or may not pay that rate at another site. The per diem rate is usually set by the customer utility, so DeNuke should get neither credit nor blame for this dollar amount anyway. So, it is flat WRONG to say that they are paying those rates "for outages".
I've been an RP for a lot of years, and a lot of those were on the road. I haven't been out of the loop for a whole year yet. It's a little premature to bury me.
But back to the topic, this job posting is NOT in competition with Bartlett. The job is totally outside the scope of the regular outage contract (which is held by Bartlett).
And I AM NOT SLAMMING THE COMPANY!!!!!
When are you people going to learn to comprehend what your read?
I am slamming someone for suggesting that they pay that kind of money for regular outage RP work on a regular basis. That is setting the bar higher than the company in question can jump. If anything I am defending the damned company by reigning in the heightened expectations that the rumor mill can put on them.
If somebody called a talk show and said,"Johnny Smith Chevrolet is selling cars for a dollar" there could be a riot of people trying to get to the lot to get their $1 car. But, if the real story was that they were selling ONE car for a dollar to the person with the winning number, that kinda changes the story. Still, they are giving someone a chance to get a practically free car. That is what they want you to know. They DO NOT want a million people to get pissed off because they didn't sell everyone a new Malibu for a buck.
volfireman07:
Yesterday they had 2 Tech jobs posted. The rate for one was $30/hr. I think the other was $22 or $25/hr. In both cases, they offered an additional $3.50/hour IF you stayed until the job ended. I am assuming you had to be there on the start date which was short notice. I have had to fill jobs on short notice and paid more than I normally would to keep my client happy. I make sure I tell the candidate that this is not the normal pay for the work being done.
I also give the estimated completion date so the contract employee can look for the next job. This has caused problems since most of the jobs I staff run long. One has run more than a year over and one is several months past the original completion date. I imagine that is one of the reasons for the $3.50/hr bonus. It is hard and expensive to replace someone "near the end" of the job. A lot of knowledge is lost.
RDTroja:
--- Quote from: Beer Court on Mar 15, 2005, 09:04 ---Just to please you nitpickers, I looked up the the actual per diem rate for Westchester County NY. It is $168. What did I say that was incorrect?
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Ummm... my guess is where you said it was "around $300". Granted, $168 is closer to $300 than to $1, but not by much. This topic started out with a statement that you took exception to due to what you perceived as an inaccurate assesment of dollar numbers and what they meant. You didn't make it any better by throwing out an inaccurate number of your own, so don't take offense too quickly. If you are going to 'slam someone' for inaccurate statements and in the process make one of your own, your credibility is what takes the hit.
This topic sort of fell into a 'what I earned when I started' vein, which has absolutely nothing to do with today (or the original post) and it was not supposed to... just another example of a straying topic. On the way we went through our favorite 'hold out for more' topic as well... another wounded horse due a good flailing.
What we seem to have learned (besides insight into several personalities, good or bad) is that 1) the original numbers were accurate and for a 3.1 qualified tech -- but only one. 2) there is indeed a 'new kid on the block' who just might be doing some good for our profession. 3) they apparently will have more jobs to offer in the future, but we have no idea yet what kind or at what price.
And one more thing... that job posting most certainly IS in competition with Bartlett. They do far more than put quantities of techs in outage slots. I am working for Bartlett at a non-outage job and in a non-3.1 slot as are many others including, I believe, a certain Webmaster we all know. I am sure Bartlett would not be in a hurry to hand over those positions to another company and would have been happy to fill the position that started this whole conversation in the first place.
Most of us comprehend what we read quite well, thank you. Perhaps some of us need to think faster than we type.
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