Did not go to Limerick for free,...
Millions were paid for Limerick to take the fuel, and millions were made by Limerick to take the fuel,....
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/audits/audits/9596/95d38.pdfDecommissioning costs are reported to be $181.5 million. Other costs LIPA
and LILCO associated with the closure, transferring and decommissioning of
this project total about $965 million, including $115 million to dispose of
contaminated fuel and $418 million for taxes and payments in lieu of taxes
(PILOTs). LIPA officials reported that they sold about $873,000 in assets
through April 1995. Thereafter, they hired a contractor to conduct the
liquidation of the plant's remaining salvageable equipment in August 1995.
By the way were the decommisisoning contractor Burak & Manny? You have twisted the words - Limerick didn't pay anything - they in essence got 'free' fuel. Considering that a 'new' fuel assembly costs between $750K - $1M each I would say that Limerick got a very good deal. Give yourself some bad karma points.
Quote from: xynergy on Today at 13:33
Marrissm,
.....It was cheaper than storing it dry......
No, the licensing hoops for dry cask storage in the early nineties were still in the pathfinder phase, cask design and manufacture can take years and are part of that licensing process, and Shoreham was on a schedule, a very definitive schedule. Perhaps just as important, dry cask storage was not politically palatable to either LIPA or the Cuomo administration.
Not correct. I was directly involved with 1 of the 2 oriignal dry fuel storage projects at Robinson (NUHOMS) in 1987. The other was at Surry. By the time Shoreham came around the licensing for Part 72 installations (i.e., ISFSI) was a non-issue. Also cask design and manufacture DO NOT TAKE YEARS. I know first hand since I have worked directly for NUTECH Engineers (NUHOMS design) and NAC. I am also familar with the BNFL (Westinghouse) and HOLTEC designs as well as many others. Again, give yourself some bad karma points.
Quote from: xynergy on Today at 13:33
Marrissm,
...We also looked as sending it to AREVA for reprocesssing and even had costs for doing so.....
I have no rebuttal to that one other than the non-proliferation treaties that almost all senior nukeworkers are well cognizant of were a non-starter for sending American made GE fuel to France for reprocessing.
Wrong again. It is obvious that you do not fully understand the treaties and regulations that the US has with regard to spent nuclear fuel. It was perfectly correct to ship the spent fuel to France as long as the 'residual' material was returned to the US. When the material was returned is another issue. This is the same process that Japan and the UK follow as well as other countries that are treaty signees. USDOE stopped the discussions since they were more worried that an issue regarding Yucca would surface and that the utilities would try to recover some of the Yucca costs. Again, award yourself some more negative karma points. Also don't confuse a senior 'nuclear worker' with a Senior HP, they are not the same.
Quote from: xynergy on Today at 13:33
Marrissm,
....Clinton's DOE buddies stopped us dead in our tracks....
No,....Claire Shulman and a pile on of NYC beeps and politicos stopped spent fuel rail shipments through NYC. The CRB's had already gone through NYC with no fuss, mostly because the beeps and politicos were not sensitive to the term "CRB's", but the term "spent nuclear fuel" got their attention and the attention of those NYC coffee house folks sitting around trying to read at least one book every 20 years ( ),...
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/22/nyregion/nuclear-fuel-to-be-moved-through-populous-areas.htmlAgain, taken out of context. DOE stopped the recycling to AREVA NOT the shipments through NYC. Again more negative karma points.
Quote from: xynergy on Today at 13:33
I forgot the single word 'planned' and that is the result of my negative karma - plain and simple.
You forgot a lot more than the single word planned, if you had been at Shoreham for the DnD you and I could reminisce about how dam good the people who performed that DnD were and how adroitly they were able to change directions and make the "impossible" happen in a New York minute. If they were not the single greatest collection of licensing engineers and specialists ever brought together they were as good as they get and equal to the best anywhere anytime.
Again award yourself even more negative karma points - I NEVER said I was at Shoreham for the D&D. I performed spent fuel management studies. And I do know a lot of the folks from Shoreham D&D - Burak, Keto, etc since they all went to Millsrtone 1 where I had responsibility for removing the fuel from the SFP.
I think that we now have the same negative karma rating of -1.