Obama's Uneven Scorecard On Nuclear

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Ksheed

It's hard to be even when you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

Mounder

How do you write this article and never mention Fukushima?  Obama is/was another populist president who follows polls and when the accident happened, he unfortunately flipped and fell in step with the misguided American public opinion on nuclear power plants.

Marlin

Quote from: Mounder on Jun 15, 2016, 09:44
How do you write this article and never mention Fukushima?  Obama is/was another populist president who follows polls and when the accident happened, he unfortunately flipped and fell in step with the misguided American public opinion on nuclear power plants.

True but there is a split in the "Green" movement on nuclear power with many seeing it as a solution to Global Warming Climate wierding Climate Change. One of the founders of Green Peace had an epiphany about nuclear and the environment before Climate Change became popular and did a 180 endorsing nuclear as environment friendly. I suppose it would depend on who Obama is listening to but public opinion would seem to favor nukes.







http://www.gallup.com/poll/182180/support-nuclear-energy.aspx

GLW

Quote from: Mounder on Jun 15, 2016, 09:44
How do you write this article and never mention Fukushima?....

because Fukushima is not relevant,...

Quote from: Mounder on Jun 15, 2016, 09:44

....Obama is/was another populist president who follows polls and when the accident happened, he unfortunately flipped....


revisionism:

fukushima was 2011,...

the decision to close Yucca was 2009, fomenting the paradigm of commercial nuclear dying on it's own waste blockage,...

fukushima did open another avenue of nuke power death by the mandating of FLEX (and other) costs for nuclear plants,...

including nuke plants in the middle of the billion year stable MCRS,...

American nuke plants presenting no geological commonality with Japanese nuke plants built in the Pacific ring of fire,...

Quote from: Mounder on Jun 15, 2016, 09:44

... the misguided American public opinion on nuclear power plants.


the American public opinion is guided to be what it is, the American public wants 2 things:

i) cheap electricity when they flip the switch &

ii) no guilt, pfm electricity when they flip the switch,...

which are diametrically opposed wants,...

as elucidated here (January 2008, long before fukushima):


been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

GLW

we are about two posts away from moving this one out of nuke news,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

Marlin

Quote from: GLW on Jun 16, 2016, 11:38
we are about two posts away from moving this one out of nuke news,...

Yep, but not quite yet. But yes I can see PolySci in it's future if it gets contentious.

Marlin

Quote from: Marlin on Jun 16, 2016, 10:06
True but there is a split in the "Green" movement on nuclear power with many seeing it as a solution to Global Warming Climate wierding Climate Change. One of the founders of Green Peace had an epiphany about nuclear and the environment before Climate Change became popular and did a 180 endorsing nuclear as environment friendly. I suppose it would depend on who Obama is listening to but public opinion would seem to favor nukes.







http://www.gallup.com/poll/182180/support-nuclear-energy.aspx

Environmental Groups Change Tune on Nuclear Power

http://www.wsj.com/articles/environmental-groups-change-tune-on-nuclear-power-1466100644

GLW

Quote from: Marlin on Jun 16, 2016, 10:41
Environmental Groups Change Tune on Nuclear Power

http://www.wsj.com/articles/environmental-groups-change-tune-on-nuclear-power-1466100644

Too late, nuclear' s market share is too small, new construction is too few, average plant age is too old, cost margins are too thin,...

Maybe Region 2 will eke out some longevity, the other regions are hurtling to cold and dark,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

Mounder

I don't see Yucca as relevant when WIPP stepped to take more of a role and did not have the push-back of Nevada.  Nevada (the people and their elected officials) killed Yucca and you can blame Obama for finally driving the last stake and putting it out of it's comatose misery.  Of course, WIPP is still floundering under their own management failures.  Opportunity lost.

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