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TEST-TAKING TIPS

Aptitude tests help organizations select capable, qualified individuals for jobs. They are fair, objective and cost-effective screening tools. Aptitude tests identify those individuals who are more likely to be successful when hired, promoted, or transferred.

This online brochure has been developed to help you prepare to take an aptitude test. It is designed to give you advice and tips for taking tests. It contains a set of strategies you might consider before you take the test as well as during the testing session itself.

Aptitude tests measure knowledge and ability people have attained throughout their lives. Short-term studying for these tests may have little impact on your test performance.

Before the Session

    You may want to prepare for the test session by taking some practice tests on different topics, like reading comprehension, math, and problem solving. This will give you an opportunity to take tests under various timed conditions. Guidebooks on test preparation, which might contain practice tests, may be available at your local library, bookstores, and through the Internet. (See the Resources section)

    Approach the testing session with confidence. Consider it an opportunity to demonstrate your skills and abilities.

    Get enough sleep the night before the testing session so you will feel rested and able to do your best.

    Have something to eat before going to the testing session.

    Although you may be nervous in anticipation of the testing session, it is not unusual to feel this way when important events occur in your life. In fact, this may help motivate you to do your best on the test.

    Get to the testing location well in advance of the time the test is scheduled to begin. This will allow you to relax and stay calm, concentrate on doing your best and not feel rushed.

    Don't bring a dictionary.

    You will need to bring an official picture identification (e.g., driver's license) with you to the testing session.

    All materials you need to take the test will be provided at the testing session. Test aids such as calculators and dictionaries are not allowed to be used.

    Make sure to bring your eyeglasses if you need to wear them in order to take the test.

    If for some reason you do not feel you can do your best on the test or you are not feeling well on the day of the test, call ahead of time to try to be re-scheduled to take it.


During the Testing Session

    Listen carefully to the introduction to the testing session which the test administrator reads at the beginning of the testing session. Ask any questions you might have about the testing session at that time.

    Follow along in your test booklet while the test administrator reads the test directions aloud. Typically, these include information on the number and format of test questions, the time limit for the test and, sometimes, how it is scored. Complete the sample questions. Make sure you understand what you are supposed to do on the test before it begins. If you are unclear, ask the test administrator any questions you may have before the test starts. It is up to you ask. The test administrator will not be able to answer your questions once the test has begun.

    Read each test question carefully before you try to answer it.

    If the test is timed, be sure to know the time limit. The test administrator will read it to you as part of the test directions. Keep track of your time and pace yourself. Work as quickly and as accurately as you can on the test. Work steadily on it until you are told to stop.

    If there's a question you can't answer in a reasonable amount of time, skip it, and come back to it after you've answered all of the other questions on the test you're working on. If you skip over a question, make sure you also skip over the corresponding answer space for that question on your answer sheet.

    If you're unsure of the correct answer to a question, try to eliminate those choices which you know are incorrect. Then you might consider making your best guess from among the remaining alternatives.

    If there's time left over, check your work.

    Once you've answered a question, it is usually best not to change it unless you're sure what you marked is wrong. Often when answers are changed, correct answers are changed to incorrect ones.

    Pay attention to what you are expected to do on the different parts of the test. Consider each part as a completely separate set of problems to do. Do not be overly concerned about how you might have done on any one part. Even if you think you did not do well on one part, try to maintain a positive attitude when you start the next part.

    Do not help,or ask for help from, other examinees during the testing session. If you do so, you may be disqualified from being considered for the job.


Practice Suggestions

    Your local library and bookstores may have books that deal with improving your reading, math and mechanical comprehension skills. In addition, adult education programs might offer courses. The Internet is another place to look for information.

    Books on reading comprehension are useful in strengthening reading skills and may contain practice reading tests. Textbooks on various subjects often have chapter review questions which you might try answering.

    Basic math books which have addition, subtraction, multiplication and division problems may be a good source for preparing for arithmetic tests. Be sure to work on problems across all four areas. Elementary algebra books include problems on how to solve basic algebraic equations.

    Books on mechanical concepts that have examples found in everyday life such as gravity, levers, pulleys, gears, shapes and centrifugal force may contain practice problems to enhance your understanding of mechanical principles. Courses in basic mechanics, shop repair, and high school physics also might help.


Resources

The following are some books and self-study guides on different topics. In addition, many others are available which you might want to consider.

    Strategies and Preparation

        Kesselman-Turkel, J., & Peterson, F. (2004). Study Smarts: How to Learn More in Less Time. Madison, WI: University of Wisconsin Press.

        Kesselman-Turkel, J., & Peterson, F. (2004). Test-Taking Strategies. Madison, WI: University of Wisconsin Press.

        LearningExpress Staff (2007). Test-Taking Power Strategies. New York, NY: LearningExpress.


    Math and Science

        Erdsneker, H. (2004). Arco Civil Service Arithmetic & Vocabulary Review (15th Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Ewen, I., Weinfeld, M., Covington, J., & Smith, D. (1999). Kaplan Essential Review: High School Mathematics I. New York, NY: Kaplan Publishing.

        Gibilisco, S. (2006). Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics (4th Edition). New York, NY: McGraw-Hill.

        Gussow, M. (2002). Basic Electricity: Based on Schaum’s Outline of Basic Electricity. New York, NY: McGraw-Hill.

        Immergut, B., & Burr-Smith J. (2005). Arithmetic and Algebra Again (2nd Edition). New York, NY: McGraw-Hill.

        LearningExpress Staff (2004). 1001 Math Problems: Fast, Focused Practice That Improves Your Math Skills (2nd Edition). New York, NY: LearningExpress.

        Levy, J. (2004). Arco Master the Mechanical Aptitude and Spatial Relations Tests (6th Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Miller, R., & Miller, M. (Eds.) (2002). Arco Electrician and Electrician’s Helper (9th Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Morrison, R. (2003). Electricity: A Self-Teaching Guide. Hoboken, NJ: John Wiley & Sons.

        O’Malley, J. (1992). Schaum’s Outline of Basic Circuit Analysis (2nd Edition). New York, NY: McGraw-Hill.

        Research & Education Association Staff (2003). REA’s Math Builder for Admission & Standardized Tests. Piscataway, NJ: Research & Education Association.

        Zegarelli, M. (2007). Basic Math & Pre-Algebra for Dummies. Hoboken, NJ: John Wiley & Sons.


    Reading, Writing and Typing

        Bonet, D. (1993). Easy English: Basic Grammar & Usage. Menlo Park, CA: Crisp Publications.

        Boone, R. (1996). Reading Comprehension: What You Need to Know About Developing Your Test-Taking Skills. New York, NY: McGraw-Hill.

        Brock, S. (2002). Better Business Writing: Techniques for Improving Correspondence (4th Edition). Menlo Park, CA: Crisp Publications.

        Elliott, R. (2006). Painless Grammar (2nd Edition). Hauppauge, NY: Barron’s Educational Services.

        Fry, R. (2004). Improve Your Reading (5th Edition). Clifton Park, NY: Delmar Cengage Learning.

        Goodman, Y., Watson, D., & Burke, C. (1996). Reading Strategies: Focus on Comprehension (2nd Edition). Katonah, NY: Richard C. Owen Publishers.

        Heuer, C., Saronson, S., & Niesz, J. (2006). Arco Master the Clerical Exams (5th Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson’s.

        Hoyt, L. (2008). Revisit, Reflect, and Retell: Strategies for Improving Reading Comprehension. Portsmouth, NH: Heinemann.

        LearningExpress Staff (2003). 1001 Vocabulary & Spelling Questions: Fast, Focused Practice that Improves Your Word Knowledge. New York, NY: LearningExpress.

        LearningExpress Staff (2006). 501 Reading Comprehension Questions (3rd Edition). New York, NY: LearningExpress.

        Princeton Review Publishing Staff (2001). Grammar Smart: A Guide to Perfect Usage (2nd Edition). New York, NY: Random House Information Group.

        Research & Education Association Staff (2002). REA’s Reading Comprehension Builder for Admission and Standardized Tests. Piscataway, NJ: Research & Education Association.

        Research & Education Association Staff (2002). REA’s Verbal Builder for Admission and Standardized Tests. Piscataway, NJ: Research & Education Association.

        Robinson, A. (2001). The Princeton Review Word Smart: Building an Educated Vocabulary (3rd Edition). New York, NY: Random House Information Group.

        Schaffzin, N. (1994). The Princeton Review Reading Smart: Advanced Techniques for Improved Reading. New York, NY: Random House Information Group.

        Zeitz, L. (2005). Keyboarding Made Simple: Learn the Best Techniques for Keyboarding Like a Pro. New York, NY: Broadway Books.


    General

        Cameron, S., Emmons, J., Friedman, M., Gregory, L., Kay, M., Klug, D., Land, G., Mallek, C., Marona, S., & Walsh, B. (2004). The Best Test Preparation for The GED: High School Equivalency Diploma. Piscataway, NJ: Research & Education Association.

        Hammer, H. (1998). Arco General Test Practice for 101 U.S. Jobs (4th Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Kaprov, R., & Kaprov, S. (2008). Master the GED 2009. Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Lawrence, N. (2002). Arco GED Basics (3rd Edition). Lawrenceville, NJ: Peterson's.

        Steck-Vaughn Staff (2001). GED Complete Preparation. Austin, TX: Steck-Vaughn.
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Re: POSS Test... Need help!!!
« Reply #1 on: Jan 13, 2006, 08:15 »
http://www.nukeworker.com/study/hp/rct/index.shtml#DOE/EH-0262T-4   Right here on nukeworker.  Probably the best crash course there is for basic math and algebra. Just click math and algebra its about 50 pages long if I do recall.  You can skip over the stuff you know and brush up on the rest.

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Re: POSS Test... Need help!!!
« Reply #2 on: Jan 13, 2006, 01:04 »
Thank you for your help. I appreciate it very much!! (so does my family!! This could be a great opportunity for me)

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Re: POSS Test... Need help!!!
« Reply #3 on: Jan 13, 2006, 09:30 »
Here is a link to a practice POSS test care of Progress Energy. 

http://www.progress-energy.com/aboutus/employment/eei/index.asp

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Re: POSS Test... Need help!!!
« Reply #4 on: Jan 24, 2006, 11:26 »
 :) I just wanted to tell everyone thank you for all the wonderful advice. I passed the test and have my final interview in a week or so. Thanks again!!!

Does anyone have any advice for a new AO or nonlicensed op? Or (my favorite)  "If I were to go back I would have...."?

Thanks again to all... God Bless

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Re: POSS Test... Need help!!!
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25, 2006, 10:17 »
Thank you for your help. I appreciate it very much!! (so does my family!! This could be a great opportunity for me)

This will be a GREAT opportunity for you and your family.  What type of advice did you need?  Interview or operator life in general?  Also what plant are you interviewing?  You can PM me if you like.  I'd be glad to help.

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EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #6 on: Mar 30, 2006, 03:07 »
In an effort to increase applicants familiarity with EEI Pre-employment tests, practice tests are available for the CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test batteries. Please note the practice test will differ slightly from the real tests and answers and explanations have been provided for your review at the end of each practice test.


This book is the one I've seen recommended most for preparing for the POSS:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0768907098/ref=sr_11_1/104-3027662-9939138?%5Fencoding=UTF8

This is a link to actual practice tests:

http://www.eei.org/practicetests

name: southern
password: testing

or

Name: paper
Password: pen

or

Name: progress
Password: practice
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2006, 02:46 »
I am also going for the Diablo Canyon POSS test on Saturday.  I have noticed that most of the poeple with interests in this position already have a B.S. or B.A. and maybe a M.A.  That is definetely intimidating.  I live only a few miles from DCPP and a full time student at a local college.  I was a Navy Nuke MM for 6yrs, and have been out for a year.  Do I even stand a chance against the people with these degrees?  Anything I can do or say to make myself more marketable?  Thanks.

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Re: Diablo Canyon POSS
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2006, 03:51 »
Kuta,
I have never worked in California (and never considered it, but that's a different story). Having said that, let me state that Navy Nukes that have gotten out and are now local are the bread and butter of every nuclear plant in the country.

Make a passing grade on the POSS (plenty of links for studying here) as step 1.

Step 2: college
If your degree is related, explain in the interview how you will complete it after employment on a not to interfere basis. If you degree is unrelated, explain why you want to enter the labor force instead of providing California with yet another History major.

Step 3: the competition
The B.A. degreed candidates have no comparison to your Navy Nuke position, and for that matter neither does the M.A. -- Liberal Arts degrees do not help you operate a nuclear plant.
B.S. may be competition, but only Engineering degrees (IMHO) are better suited for employment in Nuke plants.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2006, 04:37 »
I was told the POSS is all about aptitude and I could not agree more with that after taking it a year ago.  Regarless of education level, the same percentage of people will pass it, 15%-20%.  The most important thing for a person to do that is taking the POSS is to learn the test now rather than while you are taking it.  Look at those practice tests and drill yourself with a stop watch.  Make sure you can deal with the fast pace of the test and learn how to take it.  Memorizing the conversions will also be very helpful, it is not hard after repeated drilling to memorize them.  Also know when to guess and when not too.  You penalized for wrong answers.

Do not worry about the people with engineering degrees.  Your experience as a navy nuke will serve you very well as a NLO.

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Re: Diablo Canyon POSS
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2006, 05:56 »
There really is such a thing as "overqualified".
You are basically the target candidate for a job in operations at a commercial nuke plant.  You are an ex-navy nuke, and have at least some college work.  (BTW, don't forget to convert your credits from the navy.  You probably have at least 60 just from being a nuke MM.)  A BS degree with no Navy nuke experience actually puts those people in line behind you.
Anyway, someone with a Master's Degree didn't go to all that trouble to get a non-management job.  An overqualified person usually does not get offered the job because they won't keep it if they take it.
Think about this, the potential employer (in this case DCPP) is looking to fill a spot that will cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time you are fully trained.  YOU have a proven track record of being able to complete a training course that is directly related and much, much tougher.  Mr. Master of Science in Engineering may well pass the training and leave for a better job two days later.  He might even just quit if it becomes apparent to him that there are no good opportunities to climb the ladder there, or if he feels that he isn't working at his full potential. 
You can't fault a person who paid for all that education, if he becomes dissatisfied turning valves for a living.  But, HR professionals are also very good at knowing that this is going to happen, and they avoid hiring someone into a job that he won't be satisfied doing.
What they would love to have is a guy (or woman) like you, who is willing to get a degree in his (or her) off time, mostly at the company's expense.  In other words, they want you to grow within their organization, and work your way up the ladder.  They want to hire someone who has the potential to become a future plant manager, but they really need you to be an NLO at the moment.  That is the job that is open, and that is the job they need to fill.  They are serious about hiring someone to fill that job, and not someone who is just trying to get his foot in the door (and have to be replaced in a year or less).
Good luck, and remember that a former Navy Nuke has no business feeling intimidated by anyone when it comes to employability.  Any employer would be lucky to get you, and nuke plants know it.
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FAILED POSS test previously - NEED HELP before testing AGAIN!
« Reply #11 on: Jul 21, 2006, 07:39 »
Hi!   I had the disappointing experience of FAILING the POSS test earlier this year at FirstEnergy.    >:(

Recently, I submitted my resume for another online posting and today I received an application in the mail to complete for that position.  Sounds good - BUT I know that this position requires that I pass the POSS test as well.    I NEED HELP!!!    Last time I had practiced the EEI tests so much that I could breeze right through them nearly perfectly.   That didn't help me much when I got to the real thing.   

FirstEnergy only tells you that you were "NOT RECOMMENDED" based on your test results.   I don't know what my WEAK spots were.  The Math was a killer.  The line chart test that was all over the place wasnn't great either!!     I've read through the forums.   There are so many ASVAB books - which ASVAB book specifically is recommended?   

One thing that I did learn on this forum is that I'm trying to get 11 CORRECT responses each module and that wrong answers are deducted from my correct answers.  OUCH - I DIDN"T KNOW THAT!!!

I'm open to any suggestions before I test again.   If I FAIL again, I doubt I'll try a third time.

Thanks
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Go to a Waldens, they always have a section of books called Chemistry Made Easy, Study For The LSATS and stuff like that. Usually there will be a book with a bunch of ASVABS.

Take one of the ASVABS in the book and do it as quickly as you can but maintain accuracy. Don't hurry, just take it as quickly as you are comfortable with. This establishes your comfort zone. Now take 10 % of the time away from your comfort time and try to do the terst within that  time frame. If you do well or even ok, shave another 10% and so on and so on. This gets you used to working a ways beyond your comfort zone while establishing some accuracy.

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So there is no one particular ASVAB book I should look for and use?  Any ASVAB book with multiple practice tests is good?   No one ASVAB book is better than the other?   Is there a need to work through all of the ASVAB sections or just particular ones?

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Any book with multiple tests is good.

You say you've taken a POSS. You should know what is on it. Use that knowledge to figure out what sections of the ASVAB you have to take.

You need initiative to succeed in this industry.

Mike

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Well I guess I didn't put that quite right.   I've been continuing to read the posts and most say to work through the ASVAB tests.  Having taken the test I couldn't understand WHY I'd want to work completely THROUGH the tests as not all applied.  Thanks anyway.

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Just drill yourself over and over.  Use the practice test on the internet and have another person make up questions for you and drill with that.  Use a stop watch.  This will get you used to taking the test and help you memorize the conversions.  Learning the test is half the battle and you will stand a good chance at making the cut if you don't have to learn the test and take it at the same time.
« Last Edit: Jul 22, 2006, 02:13 by Nutty Neutron »

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I'm a journeyman maintenance mechanic trying to pass the POSS test to get into a fossil plant.  I'm surprised both nuclear and fossil have to pass this test.  The math test killed me.  I don't remember having any algebra on the math test, just A LOT more conversion than are on the sample test at EEI.  Is there somewhere I can found some of those oddball conversions to memorize before taking the test?   From the table & graph test, I remember the graph with lines going everywhere ending at the right hand side.  Are there suggestions for that?   I was expecting a table to read!   Any suggestions for the spatial relations?   I knew those on the practice test and had used a thick spatial relations book to study, but none of that seemed to help.

I've taken about three test in 20 years!  This was nasty!  Does anyone know what it takes to pass for fossil?
« Last Edit: Jul 22, 2006, 11:42 by batman77 »

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I'm not aware of any means to learn spatial relationships, in my mind it's something you can do, or you can't do.

I thought I was helping someone out who wants to be a nuke.

Mike

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 I recently took the POSS, and to prepare, I worked thru the ASVAB prep books, some mechanical and spatial ability prep books, and had my wife make some practice tests with conversions, and with the provided graphs.
 The company I tested for sent me a letter stating that I had failed. So, I contacted them, to find what portion I messed up on. Upon further investigation, there was some sort of computer/transposition error, and I actually passed. But when I thought I failed, I was talking to a community college that offers a POSS test prep course, and getting a copy of the course materials. Here is the contact info from the website :                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             An EEI Test Preparation Course may be available at a community college near you. For more information, contact the schools listed below:

Chattanooga State Technical Community College, Chattanooga, Tennessee
Contact: Lulu Copeland (423)697-3100

Pellissippi State Technical Community College, Knoxville, Tennessee
Contact: Marcia Lawson (865)694-6665

Northwest Shoals Community College, Muscle Shoals, Alabama
Contact: Susan Sockwell (256)331-5286


 Hope that helps!
  Bill

PS Being as how you recently took it, you know which converion factors to memorize, and what kind of algebra questions to practice....

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Re: Diablo Canyon POSS
« Reply #20 on: Jul 27, 2006, 10:07 »
Don't feel intimidated.  You have enough engineering knowledge to be able to do quite well against engineers with no experience.  Beercourt is right.  They are all (or should be) intimidated of you.  Pass the POSS and the only ones in your way are other ex-navy nukes.

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Mass / Poss question
« Reply #21 on: Oct 28, 2006, 04:56 »
Anyone know about the pscyc test that is at the end of the Mass test?  This test reminded me of a similar test I took way back in high school for fun. 

I am wondering how much weight is placed on this part of the exam?

How about a place or website that can take this type test?

TH

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Re: Mass / Poss question
« Reply #22 on: Oct 28, 2006, 05:24 »
If you're going to gain unescorted access to a commercial nuke facility you'd best take that psyche exam very seriously and not play around. Once in a facility you have to take it every so many years, if you show any abberations you have to talk with a shrink. In todays day and age I doubt a potential employee would get that far due to the number of qualified applicants.

How do you study for a psyche test???

Mike



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Re: Mass / Poss question
« Reply #23 on: Oct 28, 2006, 09:41 »
I will have to look up the site, I believe you are asking for sample Mass Poss tests and not a sample of the spych test..... Lets hope anyway..... it asks questions like.. do you love you mother, do you love you father, some silly ones.... do you participate in kinky sex, does the site of blood bother you....
Anyway, I will post a site where you can take a sample EEI test.

http://www.exeloncorp.com/careers/eeitestinfo/

Go there, it has the password and ID on that same page.
I have taken the test before, it is pretty easy, but it is timed and that sometimes bothers people.
Good luck, and do practice.

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« Reply #24 on: Oct 29, 2006, 04:24 »
I am more curious to find out for myself what this type test says about me.  The mood you're in when you take the test has to affect how you look at these very general questions. 

The one I took a long time ago (and was able to see the results) was fairly accurate in some of the things it claimed about me, but a fortune teller can do the same thing.  Neither of these is methods of testing a personallity is very reasuring to me, especially when your livelyhood may hinge on it. 

I guess the biggest problem I have is that they won't tell you why you failed. To me, any test, is an assessment of myself that will give me a gauge for personal improvement.
 
I recently took a Mass test and was "not recommended", I had never failed a mechanical apptitude test ever before and at first was convinced I probably failed due the psyche test, even before I got an answer.  If this is true then I really want to know so I can quit wasting my time and theirs.  I remember it did have questions like...do you love you mother?,...how many days can you miss work in a month and still be a good employee?,...is it ok to take a pencil from work?,...have you ever stolen anything?  But what are they looking for?, a loving, on time, pencil protector? ;)

My immeditate thoughts after taking the test was worring about this psyche part. Unfortunatly, a few weeks after I took the test, I found this web site and has since figured out that most likely the "math" is what got me.  It was the only section that I did not finish, all the others I was able to finish, go back and double check, at least most of my answers.

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Re: Mass / Poss question
« Reply #25 on: Oct 29, 2006, 05:48 »
Th55,

You failed the MASS test not the MMPI.  I've never heard of anyone failing the MMPI without an interview with the shrink. 

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« Reply #26 on: Oct 29, 2006, 09:10 »
Ok, what is the  MMPI? and what is its purpose?

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« Reply #27 on: Oct 29, 2006, 10:07 »
"Once in a facility you have to take it every so many years, if you show any abberations you have to talk with a shrink. "

Not necessarily; I have not had to retake it since I went house a couple decades ago...



HP/RP Techs don't have to since they aren't considered to have the skills and pant knowledge to damage or sabotage a plant. Key maintenance people and Operator have to take it.

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« Reply #28 on: Oct 29, 2006, 10:09 »
Ok, what is the  MMPI? and what is its purpose?

Its a Personality Inventory thats designed to catch you in a lie. Its supposed to measure stability of personality to determine your trustworthyness. Utilities use it as an indicator of whether you are stable enough to hire.

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« Reply #29 on: Oct 30, 2006, 01:17 »
My immeditate thoughts after taking the test was worring about this psyche part. Unfortunatly, a few weeks after I took the test, I found this web site and has since figured out that most likely the "math" is what got me.  It was the only section that I did not finish, all the others I was able to finish, go back and double check, at least most of my answers.

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I did not complete the math portion either. THey go based on number correct of the number you answered. Or that is how it was explained to me. They, being the ones helping get the job, told me to answer what I knew, then go back and answer what ever else I could. I completed all but the math section and qualified for all the areas they test for. And I am horrible at math.
What were you apllying for that you had to take the POSS and MMPI? Some sites require employees to see the shrink when getting hired in. I was told that due to the job I was being hired for, even though I had just takent he MMPI as a contractor, I had to take it again and visit the shrink. Great fun that was. He had flagged 3 questions. Does the sight of blood bother you? I answered no, and he wanted to know why. Do you frequently get up during the night? I answered yes, and he wanted to know why. And I can't remember the last question.

Good luck to you in what you are trying to get hired for. It will all work out in time.

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« Reply #30 on: Oct 31, 2006, 09:07 »
Another web site that you can take practice tests on is

http://www.eei.org/practicetests/

The login is constellation and the password is energy. You can take the following practice tests: CAST, TECH, SO/PD, MASS, and POSS.

They are decent tests and will go over the answers with you at the end in detail. For those of you who don't like the math portion it would be very helpful. They explain step by step  how to reach the correct answer. There isn't any type of psych questions on this site. If you want more information on the MMPI though, try this website:

http://www.falseallegations.com/mmpi-bw.htm

More information than you would ever want to know, but very useful. And RP/HP techs are not excluded form taking this test (though you may think so at times!!)
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« Reply #31 on: Nov 05, 2006, 08:44 »
I applied for and ICE technician position and it was for a fossil plant.   The EEI practice test that I reviewed prior to taking the test was scaled down from what the actual test was like... there were many more conversions and more possible answers on the real test, plus a "not listed" answer or "none of the above" to help you miss some.   

Another tricky thing that I remember about the test that got my attention was the answer sheets were different, the fill in the dots patterns were identical, but they were numbered differently. 

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« Reply #32 on: Feb 25, 2007, 12:17 »
I am taking POSS Test for the Second time next week. Is it better to guess at all questions or leave the ones you are sure you don't know (mostly MATH) blank. Of course I got no feed back from company.

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« Reply #33 on: Feb 25, 2007, 12:42 »
Most companies don't give feedback to those who failed. When I was at DTE they graded the exam within an hour. Those who failed were on a plane out that day.

When I took it at SCE in 1990 they told me I'd only find out if I passed. Oh by the way, I'm NOT sure how SCE does it now but then they'd rent a hotel conference room in an area and give the test to those people in that region. ALSO they'd let you take the exam no matter how you were dressed BUT if you didn't show up in a tie as the minimum they'd throw your test and application away as soon as you left. Two guys on my boat showed up in T shirts and jeans. When they left I  saw the HR Supervisor there say thank you for your interest, then simply shred their stuff when they left. When I handed mine in she said to tell my buddies that when one applies for a job they're selling themselves from the minute they walk into the facility. I ended up getting offers for interviews from their Radcon, Chemistry and Ops departments. They were offering a ridiculously LOW amount to Southern California, especially since Fermi had already offered me 3 an hour above SCE. I heard they changed their entry rate soon thereafter.

On the OTHER hand, when SONGs1 closes a few years later a LOT of guys who were in the class I would have been in showed up at Fermi looking for a job. By that time I was well on my way to becoming an SRO so I'm glad I didn't go to SONGs.  My wife and I did like the area though.

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« Reply #34 on: Feb 25, 2007, 08:48 »
Most companies don't give feedback to those who failed. When I was at DTE they graded the exam within an hour. Those who failed were on a plane out that day.

I agree with you about appearance.  When I took it at SCE in 1990 they told me I'd only find out if I passed. Oh by the way, I'm NOT sure how SCE does it now but then they'd rent a hotel conference room in an area and give the test to those people in that region. ALSO they'd let you take the exam no matter how you were dressed BUT if you didn't show up in a tie as the minimum they'd throw your test and application away as soon as you left. Two guys on my boat showed up in T shirts and jeans. When they left I  saw the HR Supervisor there say thank you for your interest, then simply shred their stuff when they left. When I handed mine in she said to tell my buddies that when one applies for a job they're selling themselves from the minute they walk into the facility. I ended up getting offers for interviews from their Radcon, Chemistry and Ops departments. They were offering a ridiculously LOW amount to Southern California, especially since Fermi had already offered me 3 an hour above SCE. I heard they changed their entry rate soon thereafter.

On the OTHER hand, when SONGs1 closes a few years later a LOT of guys who were in the class I would have been in showed up at Fermi looking for a job. By that time I was well on my way to becoming an SRO so I'm glad I didn't go to SONGs.  My wife and I did like the area though.

Mike

I agree with this post about dressing for the interview.  I don't know what was said about the people I took the test with back in the summer of 2005 at Davis-Besse.   I do know that only one other guy who took the test with me got hired.  Both of us had dressed in suits/ties.  I saw many others show up with just tee shirts and cut off jeans.  I later found out that well over 100 people took the test and only 17 operators were hired.  This seems to be a very low selection rate even if some did not accept offers.  Passing the test and dressing for a job interview seem to be both equally important.
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 16, 2007, 10:54 »
I feel so stupid!  >:( I took the POSS, feeling pretty confident on the subject matter, and I failed it! :'( I NEED to pass this thing.  :D It was my first time and I am going to work on speed drills to get ready to take it again. I didn't know wrong answers count against you!. How many do I need to get right to pass each section?

I am new to this website. I am so glad there is a place to find out all of this stuff. I'm in the Navy EM1 served on a carrier 4 yrs. getting out on october, have a bachelors from thomas edison and i will have my MSM from Embry riddle U. by October. I am trying to get into Port St. Lucie and I know no one so anything you guys can tell me will help and will be truly appreciated.

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« Reply #36 on: Apr 16, 2007, 11:03 »
1: You have to answer a set amount of questions before that section will even be graded.

2: You have to get a certain number correct. If you don't get criteria 1 complete then criteria 2 doesn't matter.

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« Reply #37 on: Apr 30, 2007, 09:53 »
Hello Ladies and Gents!

I'd first like to introduce myself, and thank you all for the information that you all share on this forum.  My name is Michael, and I'm 2 weeks away from exiting the United States Marines, after a 5 year obligation.  I'm from Jasper, TN, and have been invited to take EEI this weekend (May 5th), in Dayton, TN.

I'M STRESSING OUT!   >:(

I'm a pretty good test-taker, but my Math skills are a bit rusty!  I bought 2 ASVAB Prep books this weekend, but I only have the rest of this week to prepare.  I have taken the MASS and POSS Practice Tests and have done fairly well on both, but I'm just a bit discouraged since I have been told that they aren't quite as hard, and have much less Math than the actual test will. 

I'm not sure Math skills that the exam is looking for.  Is TVA looking for people who know formulas and operations in Algebra, or are they more concerned with being able to solve Basic Problems?

I'm sorry this might not make any sense, but I'm trying!  I just want to hear some opinions as to whether the Math portion of the exam is a wide range of Math, or simply an array of Algebra.

Thanks for any help, and Prayers are NEEDED!!!

Thanks again,
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Its not what TVA is interested in, its whatever is on the EEI POSS Test. Some is Basic Math, problem solving, graph reading, basic algebra.

Also if you think you need prayers you best pick another industry. I prefer technical competence myself.

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I'm a pretty good test-taker, but my Math skills are a bit rusty!  I bought 2 ASVAB Prep books this weekend, but I only have the rest of this week to prepare. 

If you are getting back up to speed with conversions and calculations, you will be in good shape. POSS doesn't require memorization of formulas (as well as I can remember), but does require timely use of the formulas that are given.

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Thanks a million Guys.  I'm sure that I'm stressing over nothing, but I just want to make sure I'm studying the right materials to do well.  My wife and I just bought a home and this job opportunity has came at the best possible time for me to move and be financially stable.  Thanks again, and if you guys can think of any other tips it would be appreciated.

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« Reply #41 on: Jun 09, 2007, 07:51 »
I just took the Mass/Poss test today.  I'm not going to find out untill Monday if I passed.  I know I did excellent on the Reading Comp, charts and graphs, and general mechanics.  But on the math and assembly I left 1/3-1/4 of the questions unanswered.  Its not that I didn't know how to solve the problems, I just ran out of time.  Does anyone know how the test is graded?  I feel like I blew it.  Does anyone know if a person does excellent on 3 subjects but fair to poor on 2 others if they fail?  And what's poor anyways?  Because one is incapable of answering all 60 math questions in 22 minutes(including basic algebra, and convertions), or whatever is that poor? ???

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« Reply #42 on: Jun 09, 2007, 10:49 »
Don't worry about not finishing the whole test.  They're looking for a minimum number of problems to be finished and then your grade is based on the percentage correct of those finished.  Best of luck and let us know how what you hear Monday.
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« Reply #43 on: Jun 09, 2007, 11:44 »
You have to pass all sections to pass the POSS. Also you have to get a minimum amount of questions complete in a section to get it graded.

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« Reply #44 on: Oct 02, 2007, 06:51 »
Hello,

I am new to this forum. I am seeking information on the EEI Plant Operator Selection System (POSS) exam such as where I can obtain study materials.

Any help is appreciated.

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« Reply #45 on: Oct 02, 2007, 09:40 »
To start with, you can look here.

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« Reply #46 on: Oct 02, 2007, 12:29 »
Thanks for your help PWHoppe, a simple answer to a simple question.

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« Reply #47 on: Oct 13, 2007, 01:39 »
okay well sorry for the late notice but I failed the first test two months ago.  Now I'm going back today.  I have been studying a book called, Mechanical apititude an spatial relations tests.  I'll let you know how I did. :D

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« Reply #48 on: Nov 04, 2007, 08:19 »
THE FATEFUL DAY HAS FINALLY ARRIVED!!!!!! ;D  Yes I am scheduled to take the POSS test on Monday the 5th of November!! Psalms 27:14.  I just thought I would let everyone know because of how much Ive been waiting for this day.  (feels like im getting married again  :o).  I have been doing the practice problems and feel that I am ready.  I took the test for security and passed it with no problems, so I hope I can do just as well on this test.  Next of course will be the interview and class starts on Jan 1 at Votgle.


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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #49 on: Nov 04, 2007, 11:04 »
Best of luck. I studied the practice problems and even did some extra credit with an ASVAB study guide.(The sections that mattered)

Its not so bad, just remember that there is easy stuff at the end of the math section. I know there are alot of versions of the POSS/MASS out there, so this might not apply to yours. Mine had easy algebra equations to solve at the end. I'm better at that than multiple unit conversions. I left a few conversions blank to get to the large number of easy stuff at the end of the section. Of course being able to finish them all would be best.  :)  All the other sections seemed to have more than enough time to complete with reasonable haste.

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #50 on: Nov 05, 2007, 10:44 »
Psalms 27:14. 

Good advice for someone who is not driving.

The advice to skip the slow parts and get the most possible done correct is right on!
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« Reply #51 on: Nov 05, 2007, 01:46 »
Ok I finished the test :P.  I was really suprized how much the practice tests helped out on this exam.  The math wasnt bad ???, I took advise and skipped the hard stuff, but even then I was only able to complete like 3  :(  word problems when I got to them.  Everything else was pretty basic.  I will know later this week about the results.  This was a POSS/MASS so either ops or maint will be my choices I guess.

Thanks for the advise.

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« Reply #52 on: Nov 16, 2007, 06:44 »
I PASSED!!!!!  ;D  Now just waiting on an interview.  Any suggestions on what to talk about and what not to talk about?

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« Reply #53 on: Nov 16, 2007, 07:06 »
I PASSED!!!!!  ;D  Now just waiting on an interview.  Any suggestions on what to talk about and what not to talk about?

Develop your STAR answers.

Situation: Name a challenging work relating situation you were in
Task: What needed to be done (Challenge or Opportunity)
Action: What did you do to accomplish the task (Ownership)
Result: What happened based on your actions

Also, any lessons learned.

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« Reply #54 on: Nov 16, 2007, 09:26 »
Any suggestions on what to talk about and what not to talk about?

Many companies have a type of question where they ask what you will and won't do. Would you start a pump without necessary support systems in place? (Yes, but only in situations where the Shift Manager was aware and considered it a necessity due to a REALLY bad day at the plant.) Would you start equipment that has the potential to injure personnel in the area?

Think about situations like that, where they are asking you if you will do something and what you would really do. Because if you are willing to risk a life to shorten an outage, this is not the right job for you.  ::)

Spend some time looking at the NRC website. If you happen to be able to ask (without sounding like you are CNN) about a recent event at Vogtle, they will know you are serious.

http://www.nrc.gov/site-help/search-select.cfm?q=vogtle&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A11&cx=014311028302829740899%3Agsojhkka504#928

What are your areas for improvement? What are you doing to improve? (Knowing the follow-up may help you select the area!)
What are your greatest strengths? How do you pass that on to others?

Think about these things, and other potential board-style questions.
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« Reply #55 on: Nov 16, 2007, 07:45 »
Hey thanks for the info I will use all of that.  I guess I will have to open the old brain cell vaults from my radcon days of oral boards, and try oh so hard to remember.   (??? I dont understand why I cant remember the simple things like shielding calculations or air concentration or decay corrections, but.....that issue from 1985 centerfol.....wwwwwooooooo wrong vault.......thought that beta / gamma weld would hold alot stronger than that....sry fellas my fault  :D)

My father gave me a holy grail of sorts  ;).  He was at TMI when it popped (sorry maybe a bad term), but he still had his reactor 1 system binder.  There is so much information packed into that thing.  Im hoping maybe to use some of the info in there during my interview. 

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« Reply #56 on: Nov 16, 2007, 11:39 »
Odds are you won't get asked anything technical.

1: Tell us about something you did to make an old job better

2: Tell us about a time you got feedback you might not have liked and what did you do with it

3: Strengths?

4: Weaknesses and what are you doing about them.

5: You see someone doing something you know isn't within procedure, what do you do?

6: You are given a task. You've been trained a certain way to do it and your SM says I want you to do it this way but it's not proceduralized. He says well the new procedure comes out next week. What do you do?

You better get # 6 right!! There are lots of ways of asking it.

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« Reply #57 on: Nov 17, 2007, 12:41 »
#6 may not be a good question.

You can have Ops Evolution Orders that are not procedures, but they have been reviewed by several SROs.  These are used many times with special "exceptional clearances" or new equipment.  If I am given a hand written set of directions with 2 SRO sigs on it and I understand what we are doing, I will have no problem performing the work.

The shift manager wields great power.  There are times you may be in the middle of a procedure and have unexpected events occur.  100% procedural compliance is simply impossible in some situations.  The SM can instruct you to stop in the middle of a procedure and start at the beginning of a different section.  Once such unexpected event happened to me yesterday during an Emergency Diesel Generator run.  The air start motors on one side ran through the interlock sequence but failed to rotate after engaging the fly wheel 3x in a row.  The diesel was locked out.  The other air start was put into service by the direction of the SM in a different section of the procedure after the lockout was cleared.  The motors on the other side had to get to the second of three attempts before getting the diesel to start.  Again we were instructed to go to a different procedure to shut the diesel down without paralleling/loading it.

I think a better question would be about being asked to "fudge" the numbers to make something pass a surveillance test.  No matter what happens, do not ever give your sig away on something that you don't understand.  If you have any doubts, push back and demand answers.  I have refused to sign acceptance criteria before and will not hesitate to do it again in the future.  It is all about being complete and accurate. 

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« Reply #58 on: Nov 17, 2007, 08:08 »
we use step deletion or immediate change procedure forms if we find a procedure doesn't work. It's reviewed by 2 SRO's and the SM.

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« Reply #59 on: Nov 17, 2007, 08:42 »
I have been involved in a couple of procedure changes.  I guess the big difference is that working DOE it takes alot of time to get the step or steps changed.  In the mean while you are expected to do the work under the old procedure, but the area manager has oked the work. 

Broadzilla, I take it you do alot of interviewing of potential employees? 

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« Reply #60 on: Nov 17, 2007, 11:48 »
#6 may not be a good question.

You can have Ops Evolution Orders that are not procedures, but they have been reviewed by several SROs.  These are used many times with special "exceptional clearances" or new equipment.  If I am given a hand written set of directions with 2 SRO sigs on it and I understand what we are doing, I will have no problem performing the work.

The shift manager wields great power.  There are times you may be in the middle of a procedure and have unexpected events occur.  100% procedural compliance is simply impossible in some situations.  The SM can instruct you to stop in the middle of a procedure and start at the beginning of a different section.  Once such unexpected event happened to me yesterday during an Emergency Diesel Generator run.  The air start motors on one side ran through the interlock sequence but failed to rotate after engaging the fly wheel 3x in a row.  The diesel was locked out.  The other air start was put into service by the direction of the SM in a different section of the procedure after the lockout was cleared.  The motors on the other side had to get to the second of three attempts before getting the diesel to start.  Again we were instructed to go to a different procedure to shut the diesel down without paralleling/loading it.

I think a better question would be about being asked to "fudge" the numbers to make something pass a surveillance test.  No matter what happens, do not ever give your sig away on something that you don't understand.  If you have any doubts, push back and demand answers.  I have refused to sign acceptance criteria before and will not hesitate to do it again in the future.  It is all about being complete and accurate. 



NOTE the SM referred to ANOTHER section of the procedure. No one can tell you to do anything that isn't procedurally allowed except in an Emergency and then it has to be an SRO.

In this case there is no approved procedure, the correct answer is no. And the last SMs I would ever take input from are ones who let a hole get burnt through their reactor head...

Yes I have interviewed. That question by the way is my multiply everything by zero question.

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« Reply #61 on: Nov 18, 2007, 01:48 »
All SMs have a SRO licenses at my plant.  The emergency situation you are referring to is exactly what I am talking about when I say 100% procedural compliance is sometimes not possible.  If you made a procedure to address every problem/possibility, you would have a procedure longer than the total sum of the books in the Library of Congress.

As far as the hole in the head, it was a bad event in the history of the nuclear industry.  I would rate it as being the 3rd worst event overall.  I was not there to see what happened, but by all accounts that I have heard, it was multiple failures on many levels and many departments.  That is why there was a great purging during the 2001 time frame.  All sites have events they are not proud of.

In the end I will always rate integrity far above anything else.  Do the right thing even when other people are not looking.

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« Reply #62 on: Nov 18, 2007, 03:16 »
In the end I will always rate integrity far above anything else.  Do the right thing even when other people are not looking.


I guess that is what it all boils down to doesnt it?  We have all been in situations where a short cut is not going to hurt anything, but the procedure does not allow it.  What kind of character a person is will let everyone know whether they can be trusted or not.  I will always stick to the procedure with no deviations, that is one reason why I am not working under DOE anymore because they wanted me to go outside the scope of the procedure with no approval.  You will screw yourself everytime if you dont do what it says. 

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #63 on: Nov 19, 2007, 02:19 »
You will screw yourself everytime if you dont do what it says. 
Not exactly true.

Blind procedural compliance is almost as bad as not following it. What if you don't understand a procedure, what do you do?? Stop and get resolution or blindly go along with it because its a procedure and by God you're gonna follow it? This is the crossroads that will get you screwed. I'm sure everyone knows the right answer. However, this is the point where many people fail.......miserably.

Understanding of a procedure is not focused on enough IMO. Fancy terms like "Procedural Compliance/Adherence" leave out a key part of being able to successfully complete a procedure.
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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #64 on: Nov 19, 2007, 07:19 »
Understanding of a procedure is not focused on enough IMO. Fancy terms like "Procedural Compliance/Adherence" leave out a key part of being able to successfully complete a procedure.

You make me laugh.  Does focusing on procedural compliance leave out a singular key part? Or are there any other equally important ideals involved here?

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #65 on: Nov 19, 2007, 10:58 »
You make me laugh.  Does focusing on procedural compliance leave out a singular key part? Or are there any other equally important ideals involved here?

Ideals?? I wouldn't say that....... Its just not a good idea to go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 thru a procedure and have no clue what you're doing.
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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #66 on: Nov 19, 2007, 11:37 »
Agreed.  There's that whole thing with 'expected response' or 'expected outcome'.  Just because the procedure was written by a smart person - they are subject to the same errors as the rest of us mortals.  If you are going to go blindly - you are gonna go alone.

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #67 on: Nov 19, 2007, 01:22 »
Ideals?? I wouldn't say that....... Its just not a good idea to go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 thru a procedure and have no clue what you're doing.

WhooSaaa WhooSaaa  I was envisioning dancing nucleii with 6 floating orbitals each.  We are talking about procedural compliance, I was just wondering if there were any other "principles" worth an honorable mention.

And I am desperately trying to remember the section number (I think it was 3.5.4.2) that specifically talked about blind compliance being just as dangerous as noncompliance and break that off on you.  But now, I just have pillars and 101's stuck in my head.  And for everyone out of the loop, just ignore this last part.

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #68 on: Nov 26, 2007, 05:12 »
Alright bad news, they did not choose me for the nuclear tech position at votgle, but I have an interview on wed.  for security.  I have to run 200 yards in a minute and shoot a target 6 times.  A little bummed of course, but I guess I will have to start there and work my way into ops. 

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #69 on: Nov 26, 2007, 05:57 »
You passed the POSS but didn't get the job and you want to go security?

Umm, no.

Try somewhere else.

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #70 on: Nov 26, 2007, 06:12 »
Well its kinda like this, I know that they are going to be needing more operators cause they are about to put in two new reactors, so I will get into security and wait for the position to come open again and reapply until I get it.  I dont want to move, my wife has a great teaching career going, my son with school and all.  So I can wait it out.  Psalms 24:17.   :)  I figure if I get my foot in the door this way, it wont be to difficult to move over to ops.  Right?

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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #71 on: Nov 26, 2007, 10:06 »
If you can be assured that Security is one foot in the door ahead of someone off the street then I'd go ahead. 
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #72 on: Feb 17, 2008, 08:34 »
I just registered for an account here, i used all the advice in the forum to take my very first POSS test.  what a treat! How do they grade these things?  I was a little disappointed not to finish 3 sections; the math, chart and graph sections.  I know that doesn't matter, but i am starting to freak myself out on whether i passed or not.  I wasn't able to finish 15 of the 60 chart problems, 3 of the graph problems and maybe 6-10 of the math problems.  I knew there were going to be a lot of problems on this test, but wow!  Is it possible to finish all of the problems in the alotted time or do you have to be Superman?  haha!   :P  I am still in college finishing up a Nuclear Engineering Degree and have been drilled with math and such which is why I believe I should have been able to finish the ones that I didn't. 

Does my test sound passable?   ???

Thank you Much!!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #73 on: Feb 17, 2008, 10:05 »
I just registered for an account here, i used all the advice in the forum to take my very first POSS test.  what a treat! How do they grade these things?  I was a little disappointed not to finish 3 sections; the math, chart and graph sections.  I know that doesn't matter, but i am starting to freak myself out on whether i passed or not.  I wasn't able to finish 15 of the 60 chart problems, 3 of the graph problems and maybe 6-10 of the math problems.  I knew there were going to be a lot of problems on this test, but wow!  Is it possible to finish all of the problems in the alotted time or do you have to be Superman?  haha!   :P  I am still in college finishing up a Nuclear Engineering Degree and have been drilled with math and such which is why I believe I should have been able to finish the ones that I didn't. 

Does my test sound passable?   ???

Thank you Much!!

Yes, it is possible to finish every section, but the HR lady I talked to said she had only seen it once in 5 years...

The quantity of questions you finished should put you well within the 'pass' range...assuming you got a high enough percentage correct.

Good luck!  :)
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #74 on: Feb 17, 2008, 10:23 »
I finished it with plenty of time to spare.

The amount you finished should put you in the range where it's graded.

Mike

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #75 on: Feb 17, 2008, 10:42 »
that's reassuring news!  I get my results in about a week, but until than i'll be anxious!  In the mean time, i have an I&C helper test to study for! weeee!!

Thank you much for the replies!

 

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #76 on: Feb 17, 2008, 10:50 »
The key to being a great I+C Tech is learning to say "Are you SURE you want me to do this?" in such a tone that the SRO you're talking to gets scared and sends you back to the shop while your work order is "reevaluated" for plant impact. :)

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #77 on: Feb 17, 2008, 12:10 »
That's awesome.  I did a 10 week co-op and i did notice some of that.  What fascinated me most was how a typically 20 minute job took over 8 hours to complete just because of the paperwork.  I Love this field!!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #78 on: Feb 19, 2008, 12:17 »
Hey cody who are you tryin to get the job with?  Just curious cause I have a friend who just took the test last week and waiting for the results from Southern.  I hope you pass and get on with whoever your trying to hire with.  Im just waiting now for an interview and hopefully hire date.  Fingures are crossed.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #79 on: Feb 22, 2008, 05:16 »
I took it with PPL Montour.  Just found out a few hours ago that i passed!!!!  But, it's like sweet sorrow because i didn't pass the Instruments and Controls exam.  Oh well!  Can't win em all i guess.  I whacked the part with the circuits and such, but everything else was fine.  If i ever take it again, which at this point will hopefully be no, i will know what to expect.  So even when a test is failed, it is a learning experience!! 

Cheers!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #80 on: Feb 22, 2008, 07:27 »
Great attitued to have.  Youll go far my friend with that attitude. ;)

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2008, 08:42 »
Well I took the EEI POSS/MASS test and didn't pass the plant operator section needed for TVA. Is there any way to find out exactly what part or parts of the test were not passed. I want to retake the test in the future, and want to be sure i'm ready. Thanks for any help.

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MASS Test Help!
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2008, 09:13 »
Does anyone know any outside references that will help with the MASS test?  Will one of the ASVAB books help?  They have many practice tests and such, but i didn't know if there is a better one to try.   Any advice?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #83 on: Oct 16, 2008, 12:36 »
Thank you for everyone that has helped in this thread.  I took the TECH exam at Millstone for a chemistry tech position and got this in an email:

Congratulations, your test result for the EEI Technician (TECH) test is "recommended".



To add my own feedback; the test is exactly like the practice test on the eei web page.  There are several links in this thread to it with the user names and passwords needed.  No calculator allowed, but you do get scratch paper.  I skipped the ones I didn't know, or the ones that my answer wasn't one of the choices.  I had enough time on all 4 tests to come back to those and to double check a few others that I put a mark next to as questionable.  The test took 2 hours total including breaks.  I want to say there were 3 15 minute sections and one 22 minute section.  I would echo the recommendations in this thread to practice speed algebra as the primary study tool.  As for the mechanical concepts section . . .  If you take the practice test and read through each concept listed, I think you would do fine.  I am an ELT in the Navy and I think the basic mechanic class in A school and the electrical and mechanical fundamentals in power school were sufficient to prepare me for that section.

Hope this helps reassure someone out there.  Now to wait another week or two to find out if I got the job.  Really looking forward to joining the Millstone team.

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EEI Exam
« Reply #84 on: Jan 08, 2009, 11:04 »
Before posting this question, I first tried to search on any info I could find here on EEI testing.  I found only one and the person was referred to the search tool.  I looked again and was unable to find additional info.

I'm currently attempting to transition from the I.T. field into the power and industry.
I'll be up front, I lack a BA, but have 20 years of tech. and I.T. experience.
One position, Engineering Technician A/B/C.  Passing EEI technical aptitude testing is required.

I've searched and searched and googled, but I have been unable to found out exactly what this entails and if it is a reasonable goal to reach and a relatively short period of time.
Can someone please tell me what types of questions are on the test and if it would be rigorous for someone with my back ground.

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Re: EEI Exam
« Reply #85 on: Jan 08, 2009, 11:11 »
This took me 3 nanoseconds and I'm computer handicapped.
http://www.progress-energy.com/aboutus/employment/eei/index.asp
That white box that is empty at the top of every page try typing EEI tests into it and hit the enter key.

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Re: EEI Exam
« Reply #86 on: Jan 08, 2009, 11:23 »
Thank you for the quick reply..The site is down unfortunately but I will keep looking.
If somone has taken the test, and doesn't mind, I was just wondering if this was their first test in the field with no experience, if they felt it was very difficult and classes will be required.

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Re: EEI Exam
« Reply #87 on: Jan 08, 2009, 11:56 »
Thanks again.  I have the info.  It looks like this is a very basic credential in the field of Energy and may only open a door to entry level positions.

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Re: EEI Exam
« Reply #88 on: Jan 08, 2009, 12:04 »
If somone has taken the test, and doesn't mind, I was just wondering if this was their first test in the field with no experience, if they felt it was very difficult and classes will be required.

I passed the test on the first try with no experience or training in the field. I spent very little time preparing and didn't find it too difficult.
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #89 on: Jan 25, 2009, 01:03 »
I just wanted to drop a line and thank everyone here for the information posted here concerning the POSS and MASS test.  I lurked around for a week, studied like hell and took the test on Tuesday.  Yesterday, I received the call that I had passed the tests and that I was to be scheduled for an interview next week.  Thanks again for everyones help.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #90 on: Jan 25, 2009, 02:07 »
I just wanted to drop a line and thank everyone here for the information posted here concerning the POSS and MASS test.  I lurked around for a week, studied like hell and took the test on Tuesday.  Yesterday, I received the call that I had passed the tests and that I was to be scheduled for an interview next week.  Thanks again for everyones help.

Morgan

Congrats!  ...and good luck on the interview!  :)
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Re: WOOOO!!! HHHOOOOO!!! POSS/MASS TEST FINALLY!!!!
« Reply #91 on: Jan 25, 2009, 05:01 »
If you can be assured that Security is one foot in the door ahead of someone off the street then I'd go ahead. 

LOL, heed his words.  It's more true than you might realize.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #92 on: May 18, 2009, 11:02 »
I am wanting to study for the poss test but I keep finding the same practice test over and over. could someone please tell me what im doing wrong thanks.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2009, 12:34 »
I am wanting to study for the poss test but I keep finding the same practice test over and over. could someone please tell me what im doing wrong thanks.

Yeah,  EEI only has the one test on their site...it doesn't matter how you log-in - you'll still see the same test.

Go to your library and get the ASVAB study guides...the related sections are as close as you get to a real POSS study guide...

Good luck!  :)
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Understanding the scores.
« Reply #94 on: May 28, 2010, 07:30 »
Hello.

My name is Layne, i'm 19 years old with a associates degree in Powerplant Science and Technology.

I just received my MASS/POSS tests.

Your MASS score met or exceeded 100% of powerplants
Your POSS score met or exceeded 94% of powerplants

Didn't know if you guys got anything similar and what it meant for possibility of jobs?

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Re: Understanding the scores.
« Reply #95 on: May 28, 2010, 07:00 »
I would say that means you should be getting a job offer with those scores!  Basically you got a 100 & a 94 on a scale of 100. 

Best of luck & Welcome to Nukeworker!

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« Reply #96 on: Jun 23, 2010, 06:20 »
I've been trying to get into the energy sector for about two years now (with no success)  and have passed both the TECH and MASS test. Does anyone know if after a certain amount of time the test results would no longer be valid and would retest? I passed the TECH in October 2008 and the MASS in June 2009. The company is Constellation energy.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #97 on: Oct 19, 2010, 03:26 »
I am scheduled to take the EEI at the end of the month. I took it about 7 years ago and passed everything but the "section" that allows me to work in nuclear. What exactly did I mess up on the test?

thanks

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #98 on: Oct 19, 2010, 04:16 »
I am scheduled to take the EEI at the end of the month. I took it about 7 years ago and passed everything but the "section" that allows me to work in nuclear. What exactly did I mess up on the test?

thanks


Honestly how in the world do you expect ANYONE here to know the answer to this?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #99 on: Oct 19, 2010, 05:26 »
I am scheduled to take the EEI at the end of the month. I took it about 7 years ago and passed everything but the "section" that allows me to work in nuclear. What exactly did I mess up on the test?

thanks

Most utilities just call it 'nuclear' if you get a higher passing grade.  So, I would expect that your overall score on the test was good enough to be 'non-nuclear', but too low to be 'nuclear'...not that you failed a particular section...

Study the ASVAB practice tests as frequently as you can, timing yourself as you take the tests.  That is the single best way to raise your overall test score the few points you need to be 'nuclear.'

And...GOOD LUCK!  :)
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #100 on: Nov 06, 2010, 08:05 »
This question is for Broadzilla...

Mike, I have read some of your posts discussing the MASS test.  I have read that you advise to guess before skipping to obtain the minimum amount of questions.  I have also read that leaving a blank answer/skipping holds the same weight as a guess if it is answered incorrectly. Granted that you have answered the minimum questions, is this a correct statement? Everyone and their mothers has this idea that leaving blank is way better since it won't be counted.  My opinion is, skip it only if you are completely unsure of the answer and it's killing too much of your time.

I'm new to this site so you may have already answered this but my search doesn't show a defined answer.  Yet, might that be your point?

Nonetheless, i'd appreciate any insight you have for me. 
Thanks -M

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #101 on: Jan 02, 2011, 11:19 »
This question is for Broadzilla...

Mike, I have read some of your posts discussing the MASS test.  I have read that you advise to guess before skipping to obtain the minimum amount of questions.  I have also read that leaving a blank answer/skipping holds the same weight as a guess if it is answered incorrectly. Granted that you have answered the minimum questions, is this a correct statement? Everyone and their mothers has this idea that leaving blank is way better since it won't be counted.  My opinion is, skip it only if you are completely unsure of the answer and it's killing too much of your time.

I'm new to this site so you may have already answered this but my search doesn't show a defined answer.  Yet, might that be your point?

Nonetheless, i'd appreciate any insight you have for me.  
Thanks -M

I've recently passed the MASS, POSS, and TECH tests.  Use your head to come up with a logical answer, because 90% of the questions are middle school based. You are not special, go do the practice tests and get used to the time constraints. If you second guess yourself, and skip over questions you are unsure to "go back later" you will subconciously think about that question until you go back to it. In a normal test, that is great, but when you need to answer 43 questions in 5 minutes, not so much! :D    sure, some questions its ok to say "ah @#$ it" but, leave it blank and dont plan on going back, unless you finish that section. These plants want people accurate under pressure, so this test does make a modicum of sense.


edit -> no im not mike! Sorry for stepping on anyones toes -.-
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EEI TEST AT FPL
« Reply #102 on: Jan 08, 2011, 12:58 »
Hello guys!! I'm new here and I found this forum searching about the EEI test and can tell after I've readed a few of the post and their answer, this is a great website and what you are doing here is excellent.
Here it is my story: I'm Electrical Engineer and recently went to a personal interview (I feel went really well) at one of the FPL facilities in South Florida to be evaluated for an Engineer II position. My mistake was that I never ask to the interviewer about EEI test, he never mentioned about it , but I found at FPL website about the EEI test.
Basically what I would like to know is if one of you guys has had experience with the FPL hiring process and can tell if I have to expect that they will ask me to take one or maybe more of the EEI test and which one would apply for my case.
If so, will they let me know ahead of time that I'm going to take those test to be able to be prepare?

thanks for your advise!

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Re: EEI TEST AT FPL
« Reply #103 on: Jan 27, 2011, 06:19 »
Hi Gibo,

I just recently took and passed the EEI Tech Test. I actually just received my job offer today!! This is a great sight with alot of helpful people...so hopefully I can return some good advice to you. If you do Have to take the EEI test there is a website with a practice test. Its basically the real thing just shorter and less time. I just studied that thing about 50 times. I set it up like a real test with the timed sections and acted like I was there taking it. after taking it a bunch of time you are going to remember the answers...but that doesnt matter, its all about knowing how to figure out the answer. The real test is exactly the same. Different answers, but its basically the same problem solving methods to a tee.

I have to dig it up but I have seen the info on this forum. Its the edison institute website and passcode to take the practice tests. There all there  tech, poss, mass etc.           

Test tips- Read all directions and situations. Its sounds easy but they try to trick you sometimes to see if you overlook something.   If you are not sure of an answer..SKIP IT. Its based on a certain percentage you need right. If there is 16 questions, you are sure of only 13 or 14....skip the other ones.    ill get back to you if you need still need the website and passcode


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Re: EEI TEST AT FPL
« Reply #104 on: Jan 27, 2011, 06:24 »
here it is

use progress and practice for username and password

http://www2.eei.org/practicetests/


study the heck out of the tech test on that... youll be fine. I dont know how fpl works but I cant see why they would not warn you about the test.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #105 on: May 27, 2011, 09:17 »
Hello All.

I'm preparing for the POSS test and I want to thank everyone for all the info given in this forum.  I have never taken it before, but based on the advice here, I have gotten an ASVAB study booklet and a Mechanical & Spatial training book.  I'm gonna start with the ASVAB guide I suppose, and practice speed with accuracy.  Forgive me if this question has been asked and I missed it; but are there sections I should focus on more than others?  Or should I just do all the ASVAB sections?

I have tried to go to the EEI link in this forum, but keep getting a bad gateway error.

Anyhow, I just wanted to introduce myself to the board, and thank you for your wisdom, and ask if there is anything else you'd like to offer that would help me out; feel free to do so.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #106 on: May 30, 2011, 11:00 »
http://www.high-paying-jobs-with-no-college-degree.com/POSStest.html

This is the study material I used a few months ago. 
I can't imagine anything being a more accurate representation of the questions and the time limits.
I know the source looks suspect, but I'll vouch for the content.
Also it's a download, so you don't have to locate it.

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how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #107 on: May 30, 2011, 01:05 »
I took and received a recommended score on the POSS test. I took the one with the short math. Anyway, I talked with HR and was told that my results of the test were good forever or until EEI changes the testing questions or format around.  Does anyone out there know how often this happens or if it happens? It was the same questions and format as the one I took a year ago.
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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #108 on: May 30, 2011, 07:33 »
EEI test results are only good for 7 years.

And who cares if they change the questions? Its 7th grade math, 3rd grade reading, and a little bit of cartography lol.

For all the EEI tests, I took old practice tests from years ago, the same format and similar questions where on all three of them.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #109 on: May 31, 2011, 01:04 »
Its all about speed and accuracy.  Take the ASVAB practice tests over and over again and time yourself.  Skip around in the book so you don't start memorizing the answers.  Get used to doing arithmetic quickly in your head or on scratch paper.  Calculators are not allowed on the EEI. I had been using a calculator for so many years that I had to practice to re-learn this simple skill.  Practice over and over again to get the time down. 

I spent an hour or two every evening for a couple of weeks working through the ASVAB algebra, word problem, and conversion tests.  My strategy was to skip any questions I knew I couldn't answer relatively quickly and go back and answer them after I got to the end of the section.  When I took the actual EEI test, I completed all questions in all the sections except the long math before time was called.  Out of those, I finished all the Algebra and word problems, and maybe 50% of the double conversion questions that I had skipped earlier.       

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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #110 on: Jun 01, 2011, 02:31 »
I wonder if in order to get a recommended score and how long the score is good for depends on the company that one is testing for????
When I took my test, I Made sure I was answering correct. I finished the Mechanical, 13 of the assembly, 30 of the reading, 9 or 10 of the math.  It wasn't the best but it passed. :)
And the HR testing facilitator told me that the results Will be good forever unless EEI changes anything in the testing.
The position I was testing for was an Assistant Unit Operator Apprentice.
 thanks to everyone for all the great posts, it was nice to be able to get other ways to attack this test.  I didn't pass this the first time I took it but the second time got it.
I really liked the Barron's mechanical and spatial study book.  It had the same assembly, and "line" test to study for the test.  And some prayer to God never hurt either.
I didn't get the position, they gave it to a guy who worked at the plant before. But I am hopeful for the next opening.
« Last Edit: Jun 01, 2011, 02:32 by H-D FLH »

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #111 on: Jun 02, 2011, 07:07 »
Thanks for the advice guys.  I will put them to use!

Offline Starkist

Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #112 on: Oct 02, 2011, 06:15 »
No offense, but from what I've read you shouldn't have passed.  Sounds like you answered 50-60% of each section except for mechanical.

No offense, but from what I've read, you aren't in a position to make this judgement.

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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #113 on: Oct 02, 2011, 07:35 »
No offense, but from what I've read you shouldn't have passed.  Sounds like you answered 50-60% of each section except for mechanical.

How the heck would you know what passing requirements are?

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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #114 on: Oct 03, 2011, 07:47 »
Thanks for being nice guys.  I posted that days ago.  Can anyone shed some light on his OP?  10 math questions would be less than one third of the section...so I'm assuming he got them all correct?  Instead of hammering me why not just admit no one has ANY idea how or why people get a passing score? lol...this place is great!

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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #115 on: Oct 03, 2011, 08:48 »
"why don't you just admit that no one has any idea how" ... You are wrong.  We have grown old telling forum readers the how & why test takers pass the POSS / MASS.  YOU just can't read.  We just got a thread started by a poster that study & read our posts & passed the POSS / MASS.  He even gave HIS blow by blow regarding this test (if you care to read it).  Have a nice night.  :)

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« Reply #116 on: Oct 04, 2011, 12:41 »
Thanks for being nice guys.  I posted that days ago.  Can anyone shed some light on his OP?  10 math questions would be less than one third of the section...so I'm assuming he got them all correct?  Instead of hammering me why not just admit no one has ANY idea how or why people get a passing score? lol...this place is great!

10 questions might mean something if you took the same exact test.  Some Utilities offer shorter versions than others.  I don't think anyone here has a definitive explanation of how it is graded, but I doubt you would get a definitive explanation from EEI.  We only know it is a pass or fail test, often with stipulations for nuclear (high) and fossil (moderate)... and we know who passes and who doesn't. 

Whether or not it best represents an NLO is immaterial.  The utilities set the rules and you've got to play the game.  As for your own predicament, many would argue that being IN the plant is better than outside.  You just have to seek the opportunities to advance.  If you don't find opportunities with your plant, seek them at other sites.
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It's the transition that's troublesome."  -Asimov

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Re: how often does EEI change testing material
« Reply #117 on: Oct 10, 2011, 05:36 »
There were only 18 or 19 math questions. I studied and went over practice questions. TOOK MY TIME to make sure I was what I believed to be 100% correct on every question before I answered it. I did complete many more of the questions the first time I took test. (didnt pass)
I didn't care how many I had to get correct to pass, was just concentrating on quality rather than quantity. As was mentioned in many other posts.
So with that, does anybody have a clue on how often or if ever EEI changes the testing format or test questions?
And thanks to all that made posts on how to take the test.  I read them, applied the info and ended up receiving a recommended notice.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #118 on: Dec 25, 2011, 09:34 »
I just took the POSS/MASS tests and passed both.  To be honest, after reading posts here from people who had trouble and were worried about the tests, I became nervous too.  I had a week to study and I never got a college degree and I hadn't taken any important tests in many years.  I gathered though that the tests were not just about memorizing a lot of information and that proved true.  I guessed on many sections (a lot) but worked quickly and stayed focused.  I had taken the practice tests on the EEI website, so I knew the format pretty well.  Anyway, just a word of encouragement if anyone else ever reads this post like I had.  Don't stress out over the test just come prepared from the practice tests and get plenty of sleep and you can always try again in 6 months (I was told) but I did pass it on my first try and you can too!
Wish me luck for an opening and an interview!!


Dave

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #119 on: Jan 16, 2012, 04:42 »
Stressing over the POSS.  I have passed the MASS before and never stressed over it.  That was 4 years ago though, and now I am applying for an RO position I took the test but am stressing the results.  I did great on every section except the Math part.  There are three sections to that and I didn't even finish the second section.  I even had some questions that I put N for an answer.  I triple checked those and probably wasted time doing it but I couldn't find any other solution.  Kind of nervous and just crossing my fingers, other than that I think I did great on the interview just waiting on test results.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #120 on: Jan 16, 2012, 04:52 »
If you are applying for an Instant RO position and stressing the POSS....
I would seriously reconsider going NLO instead.
« Last Edit: Jan 16, 2012, 04:52 by HydroDave63 »

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #121 on: Jan 16, 2012, 05:23 »
Stressing over the POSS.  I have passed the MASS before and never stressed over it.  That was 4 years ago though, and now I am applying for an RO position I took the test but am stressing the results.  I did great on every section except the Math part.  There are three sections to that and I didn't even finish the second section.  I even had some questions that I put N for an answer.  I triple checked those and probably wasted time doing it but I couldn't find any other solution.  Kind of nervous and just crossing my fingers, other than that I think I did great on the interview just waiting on test results.

I passed that POSS a time or two  :old: :old: and think you shouldn't fear that N answer. It appeared several times in the math portion. If you rounded, odds are you were right. Between my nap and morning reflections that I did upon finishing the math, I did the long form on several of those questions and they were all right when I rounded.

I'm sure you did fine. It wasn't even hard!

« Last Edit: Jan 16, 2012, 05:24 by Drayer »

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« Reply #122 on: Jan 26, 2012, 12:15 »
Well I passed the POSS... I guess my stress was from not taking a test like that in so long.  Too bad I still didn't get the job, something about didn't have all the right qualifications, not going to deter me from trying to get myself back into the nuclear field though.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #123 on: Jul 17, 2012, 12:21 »
So I am retesting for the POSS test this Monday.

I have no idea as to which sections I need the most work on due to the fact that I never got my test results. I was only told by the company I applied to that I was "Not Recommended." I'll admit... it was not easy for me to hear that news.

I know this question gets asked a lot, but does anyone have any advice for someone taking the POSS Test for a second time?

I'm a little nervous as I was just notified this morning about retaking it and the test is in 5 days. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!!

-Misteree

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #125 on: Jul 18, 2012, 01:32 »
Time to get studying!!! 5 days to go.  :D

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #126 on: Jul 24, 2012, 01:09 »
I just wanted to thank this forum and everyone's advice and all the threads with useful knowledge concerning the POSS test.

I retook my POSS test yesterday morning, and this morning I received my results. I am happy and proud to say that I have passed and am now waiting to interview.  :)

Thank you everyone for being extremely supportive through posting all the information. It was truly helpful and I'm so happy that I finally get a chance to make a difference not only for me but for my family as well.

You guys are awesome!!

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« Reply #127 on: Jul 24, 2012, 01:54 »
Congrats!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #128 on: Jul 24, 2012, 07:51 »
Good job!!!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #129 on: Jul 26, 2012, 10:22 »
Thanks guys!! I heard about my interview!! I'm very excited. Can anyone please point me in the direction of the interview threads? I couldn't really find anything when I did a search. I really want to knock this one out of the park. I'd greatly appreciate any help that I can get. Also, does anyone have any personal advice about the interview process?



-misteree

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #130 on: Jul 26, 2012, 11:38 »
Thanks guys!! I heard about my interview!! I'm very excited. Can anyone please point me in the direction of the interview threads? I couldn't really find anything when I did a search.

-misteree

You're kidding me right?!?!



Well, no "game on, flame on" today, just go here;

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,34581.0.html

and here;

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,33323.0.html

and here;

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26974.0.html

and here:

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26959.0.html

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http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26487.0.html

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http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26272.0.html

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http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,25169.0.html

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http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,17531.0.html

and here;

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,5831.0.html

and here;

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,5387.0.html

(that last one is from a user who did quite well for himself and still posts here regularly)

Also, does anyone have any personal advice about the interview process?

You might want to PM the usual suspects, they can be very good when positively approached,...

good luck,..... 8)

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #131 on: Jul 27, 2012, 11:33 »
Took my POSS yesterday with utility in SC and passed thanks to all the great advice on these forums.  Subsequent interview also went very well.  Now just waiting for the post-interview phone call.
I will say that in spite of taking practice exams, the actual experience of taking the exam was humbling.  I found it difficult during the practice exams to truly time myself and focused more on answering the questions properly.  In practice, and pressed for time, I found I simply did not have the luxury I had been giving myself on the practice exams.
Reading comprehension and mechanical concepts were by far the easiest sections of the exam, and the only two sections that I completed 100%.  The spatial construction and visualization was by far the hardest portion for me.  I found it easier to tackle certain types of those than others.  Building blocks and piping assemblies were much easier than some of the others.  Graphs and tables were straight-forward, but again, I was not able to complete all of the questions in the allotted time.  Math was also straight-forward, but I did not complete any single portion in its entirety.
All in all, a humbling experience with a good outcome.
More interviews on the horizon.  I can't say enough about how helpful and informative this site has been, and I consider the money I spent on a Gold membership to be worth every penny!
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #132 on: Aug 13, 2012, 02:07 »
I had my interview over a week ago. They said 2-3 weeks I should know something. I have to say that when I went in, I sat down confident, went through the interview confident, and left confident. The interview went very well in my opinion, the hardest part for me right now is waiting to hear back from them. I'm hoping I get a phone call with good news. :)

Thank you for all the links on interview advice. I appreciate the help.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #133 on: Aug 14, 2012, 12:10 »
I had my interview over a week ago. They said 2-3 weeks I should know something. I have to say that when I went in, I sat down confident, went through the interview confident, and left confident. The interview went very well in my opinion, the hardest part for me right now is waiting to hear back from them. I'm hoping I get a phone call with good news. :)

Thank you for all the links on interview advice. I appreciate the help.

Glad we could help.



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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #134 on: Aug 15, 2012, 06:38 »
I took the POSS, passed and didn't get the job that I interviewed for.  But, the good thing was I impressed them so much with my interview I was called back to interview for another position.  I didn't get the RO position I was hoping for instead I will be a Nuclear Planner/Scheduler at the Farley Plant near Dothan.  Super excited.  I have been out of the Nuclear world for 5 years now and this is going to be nice change of pace.  Who knows, in a couple of years I may be able to apply for the RO or SRO position and actually get the job the next go around.  At least I will have the POSS under my belt and won't have to worry about that.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #135 on: Aug 16, 2012, 01:18 »
I took the POSS, passed and didn't get the job that I interviewed for.  But, the good thing was I impressed them so much with my interview I was called back to interview for another position.  I didn't get the RO position I was hoping for instead I will be a Nuclear Planner/Scheduler at the Farley Plant near Dothan.  Super excited.  I have been out of the Nuclear world for 5 years now and this is going to be nice change of pace.  Who knows, in a couple of years I may be able to apply for the RO or SRO position and actually get the job the next go around.  At least I will have the POSS under my belt and won't have to worry about that.

Congrats on the new job!  :)
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #136 on: Aug 16, 2012, 01:16 »
I took the POSS, passed and didn't get the job that I interviewed for.  But, the good thing was I impressed them so much with my interview I was called back to interview for another position.  I didn't get the RO position I was hoping for instead I will be a Nuclear Planner/Scheduler at the Farley Plant near Dothan.  Super excited.  I have been out of the Nuclear world for 5 years now and this is going to be nice change of pace.  Who knows, in a couple of years I may be able to apply for the RO or SRO position and actually get the job the next go around.  At least I will have the POSS under my belt and won't have to worry about that.

Congratulations Velcro! That's awesome news to hear!!  :)

Velcro

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #137 on: Sep 13, 2012, 02:55 »
Thanks....One month on the Job as a Scheduler and it is very interesting for sure.  Feels good to be back in the Nuclear world.  Oil and Gas is nice but in order to make money you have to travel.  I got out of the Navy to stop traveling, glad to be back!

Offline otter

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« Reply #138 on: Apr 25, 2013, 03:40 »
I recently took and passed the MASS test. This forum was helpful in my preparation. Thank you all for that.

I never got a 100% solid answer as to how the tests are scored (even if there is some very good, constructive advice). Here is what I can contribute to that end: On the first portion of my test, Assembly, I had neglected to watch the clock. While confident about the answers I was putting down, I only completed 14/20 (70%). Of course I had read that the quality of answers was more important than quantity, but this still had me worried. Hopefully knowing this will be comforting to others waiting for results, and helpful to future test-takers.

Another important item I can share is that EEI seems to be testing out a new format. We actually took 5 tests, including two versions of Assembly. We were told that one of the five was experimental, but that it was important to do our best on all of them. I am making the assumption, of course, that this second Assembly test was the experimental one. It was split about 50/50 between the same type of questions as the regular Assembly test, and what I believe are Spatial Aptitude questions. These were not covered on the practice tests. They were very similar, in concept at least, to the link below. Maybe it was just mental exhaustion at that point, but some were extremely difficult.

https://www.pgworks.com/documents/44/SpatialAptitude.PDF

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #139 on: Oct 20, 2013, 10:04 »
I graduated with my AAS energy technical specialist in may 14,2013 & now am doing the online BAS energy Management degree from bismark state-energy center. how/where do I take the POSS/MASS tests? at a loss here, need help, cannot find anything online.

Offline HydroDave63

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD test s
« Reply #140 on: Oct 20, 2013, 10:15 »
I graduated with my AAS energy technical specialist in may 14,2013 & now am doing the online BAS energy Management degree from bismark state-energy center. how/where do I take the POSS/MASS tests? at a loss here, need help, cannot find anything online.

Those tests are given by companies as part of their hiring process. Try finding a utility that is hiring.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #141 on: Nov 06, 2013, 11:51 »
Hi guys I have a few questions about the EEI MASS test i have searched the forum and could not find the answers if i missed them I apologize.

First off- How is the test scored. For example I have read that you have to get at least 11 correct answers, and that every question you get wrong counts against you, also I have read that un answered questions don't go against your score. So for example if I answer 15 questions an I get 12 of those answered correct do I end up with a 12 out of 15 and essentially I have passed the section or do my 3 incorrect answers get subtracted from the 12 I answered and would I then end up with 9 correct which would obviously be a fail.

Also I have seen on here some people recommending that you memorize all of the conversions to help with speed does anyone think this is a good tactic. And if anyone feels obliged to share some other tactics they used to help pass this test that would be appreciated as well thanks.
 

Offline ddickey

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #142 on: Nov 07, 2013, 10:51 »
When is your test?

Offline Vogt641

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #143 on: Nov 07, 2013, 11:10 »
My test will be in december. I know it might seem like overkill but inhave already started studying and using a asvab book for practice.

Offline ddickey

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #144 on: Nov 07, 2013, 01:06 »
What utility?

Offline Vogt641

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #145 on: Nov 07, 2013, 02:07 »
Exelon

Offline Grover09

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #146 on: Feb 06, 2014, 12:20 »
I just found out I passed my POSS exam!!  I was worried because I didn't finish the Math section (just finished the algebra section (so about 2/3 finished))  I also didn't finish the table reading section.  I was going as fast as possible and only got like 4-5 done on the second half. of the table and about the same for the graph. 

I hope this post will encourage others who expected to not have a problem but then didn't finish.

Next step is an interview.  time to buy a new shirt and tie.  I already wore my only stain free tie to the test. :D

Offline balucero1905

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #147 on: Feb 26, 2014, 06:51 »
I recently applied to a health physics specialist job at scana, and was wondering what type of testing would I be asked to take if selected. I've taken the NUF before but that was about 5 years ago, so I'm sure I will asked to take that again. Just need help figuring out if I will need to pass any of the EEI testing. Thank you in advance for any help, and it is very much appreciated.

Offline mccantfitness

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #148 on: May 09, 2014, 10:33 »
I took the Poss Mass 3 days ago and now it's the weekend! A guaranteed 2 more days with no results! The position is for Operator for Entergy plant in Montz, LA. There were only several people taking the test including me. I'm very confident that I pass, but I rather see in front of my face! 

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #149 on: Sep 26, 2014, 02:24 »
LOOKING FOR TIPS ON HOW TO PASS THE GRAPHIC ARITHMETIC SECTION OF THE EEI TECH TEST, PRIMARILY THE TOWER, DIAGRAM IS DIFFRENT THAN THE STUDY GUIDE?

I may be misunderstanding your post but . . .

The purpose of those tests is to get some idea of your ability to deal with the subject matter of the questions - not memorize answers from some practice exam and spit them out on the test.  I expected the tests to be different from the practice tests and I wasn't disappointed.  The practice tests are there to prepare you for the TYPE of questions you can expect to encounter.

Offline cheme09

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #150 on: Sep 26, 2014, 05:27 »
LOOKING FOR TIPS ON HOW TO PASS THE GRAPHIC ARITHMETIC SECTION OF THE EEI TECH TEST, PRIMARILY THE TOWER, DIAGRAM IS DIFFRENT THAN THE STUDY GUIDE?

Graphic arithmetic? Like, if theres a large cube and you can only see one face of it which is made of a 3x3 array of small cubes, you need to answer how many small cubes there are?

Not sure of any tips for that kind of stuff. You either know it or you don’t.

The rest of this post isn’t directed at you, but just my take on the POSS.

A test like the POSS is meant as a very coarse filter to see who has the requisite level of knowledge and can perform well enough to go through an operator training course. That second part is key: “can perform”. While it is useful to learn tips on taking tests, it’s my opinion that it takes a certain type or person to be an operator. Those who cannot perform well under pressure or are not sure and confident in their decisions don’t need to be (and I feel, should not be) tasked with the responsibility of operating a nuclear plant. I’m all for students who study tirelessly and put forth effort and look for ways (tips) for learning things. But that doesn’t mean much if the material cannot be internalized or when under pressure the correct answer cannot be produced.

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« Reply #151 on: Sep 26, 2014, 07:57 »
............, it’s my opinion that it takes a certain type or person to be an operator. Those who cannot perform well under pressure or are not sure and confident in their decisions don’t need to be (and I feel, should not be) tasked with the responsibility of operating a nuclear plant. I’m all for students who study tirelessly and put forth effort and look for ways (tips) for learning things. But that doesn’t mean much if the material cannot be internalized or when under pressure the correct answer cannot be produced.


never get these poeple started on innate versus learned,.....never,....

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26372.0.html

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« Reply #152 on: Sep 26, 2014, 08:37 »
never get these poeple started on innate versus learned,.....never,....

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,26372.0.html

that thought crossed my mind before actually posting my response, but oh well. maybe my third week of outage nights is getting to me. maybe it's made me less sensitive to the repercussions of my actions or others' feelings. maybe i'm just becoming more cynical. maybe i'm going down a dark path towards becoming another broadzilla  :o

really what i was just trying to be pc about in my initial response is the fact that if you're struggling with the POSS or MASS or any of these tests needed for application, it's not going to be an easy road if you manage to get the job. moreover, if the type of subject matter on these tests doesn't come easy to you even after endless studying, then it REALLY isn't going to be an easy road.

...maybe i'm just an a-hole

Offline GLW

Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #153 on: Sep 26, 2014, 09:33 »
that thought crossed my mind before actually posting my response, but oh well. maybe my third week of outage nights is getting to me. maybe it's made me less sensitive to the repercussions of my actions or others' feelings. maybe i'm just becoming more cynical. maybe i'm going down a dark path towards becoming another broadzilla  :o

really what i was just trying to be pc about in my initial response is the fact that if you're struggling with the POSS or MASS or any of these tests needed for application, it's not going to be an easy road if you manage to get the job. moreover, if the type of subject matter on these tests doesn't come easy to you even after endless studying, then it REALLY isn't going to be an easy road.

...maybe i'm just an a-hole

yup,.....third week of outage nights can do that to ya,... :P ;) :) 8)

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #154 on: Sep 27, 2014, 10:19 »
maybe i'm going down a dark path towards becoming another broadzilla  :o


Nope, BZ would have just posted "Janitor"

I was gonna post "decon" but I've already been coached about that...  :P

The tests are a filter. Not everyone belongs in nuclear power. Somebody has to work at the gas station / subway down the road from the plant.  ::)
I didn't take the POSS test, I took the Tech test (for RP). Didn't even know it was coming, but both of us that took it passed with no issues.  8)
You shouldn't have to study for an aptitude test...  ;)
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #155 on: Sep 29, 2014, 05:38 »

You shouldn't have to study for an aptitude test...  ;)


I get your point. 

But can we also agree that there is no reason NOT to do some practice tests if you have time...just to make sure your brain is in 'Test-Mode' when they hand you the paper?

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« Reply #156 on: Nov 20, 2014, 07:42 »
I'm am going to be taking my POSS/MASS EXAM In a few weeks and was wondering a few things. 1st - when taking the test do they grade the answer I could not complete ? Im only 22 and don't have a college degree but I know how to study .. Honestly is this test that challenging that older guys can't pass it ? I'm nervouse and looking for answer please help me out.

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #157 on: Feb 03, 2015, 01:20 »
Going to be taking my poss exam in a few weeks, but I have to take an entry math exam and must get an 80%? Does anyone know what possible topics could be on this exam?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #158 on: Apr 03, 2015, 02:58 »
Hows it going? I am currently a Petroleum/Gasoline terminal operator. I have taken and failed the POSS/MASS test in the past. I just applied for an apprentice lineman job in my area's utility company. I have not recieved a test date yet but I know that it will be the CAST test. Does anyone have experience with the CAST as opposed to the POSS/MASS. From the practices it seems like it may be a little easier, but I want to be 100% prepared. Thanks in advance!

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #159 on: Jul 11, 2016, 11:57 »
Hello everyone, I am new to this site and am a highly motivated wife seeking to support and assist my husband as much as possible in preparing for a POSS test and interview for an AO position at a Nuc (steam) plant. I will have several questions to help him along, but to start, I want to say that we have spent SEVERAL hours together on this site, reading and discussing every post pertaining to the POSS we can find. Yesterday while he was on call for work, I purchased him an ASVAB study book, an Algebra study book, and a POSS study book. He has also taken one POSS practice test and will be taking one a day until the actual test day. We understand the concept of accuracy and quality over speed and completion of the test, and also have a strategy understanding for how to work through the test (skip ones you cannot quickly complete to ensure you finish all the easy ones you can, then come back to the tough ones if you have time, do not guess as each wrong answer counts as 2 points against you). We both currently work full time, and his getting this job would afford me to stay home and take care of our son, have more children and finally have a better life…

So…background and sob story out of the way. Some starter questions….
•   Is the online practice test as realistic a practice test as a printed hard copy? (say the actual POSS they use at the plant he is applying for is printed)?
•   Will our credit score affect his eligibility for hiring? (I know they will do a background check and he will need government clearance –these will be no problem, but with them being so thorough in their scrutiny of potential candidates/employees…)
•   Can you recommend any way to study? (i.e. how long is needed, how many practice tests should be taken, is there any way I can help him?)
•   Flat out, will my husband be considered qualified? (He is currently a senior journeyman, low voltage electrician in charge of teams (similar to a foreman at a construction site) that are responsible for installing, monitoring, trouble shooting and fixing fire and security systems. He is responsible for final walkthrough and ensuring the new systems pass code for the Fire Chief and State fire safety guidelines. He graduated from an Arts College with honors for traditional animation, spent some years professionally animating cartoons that were on television, spent many following years doing computer coding/website design and building (better pay than animating). He has currently been a low voltage electrician for 5 years, has 2 certifications for low voltage electrical in 2 states (NICET), has CPR certification and was temporarily given government clearance to install systems on an Air Force Base.
We understand he has one shot at this test at this particular plant (which is our choice). And if he fails that’s it…. I understand there is a great group of people here who have helped a number of individuals pass the POSS test… so I am doing my part to help. Thank you in advance for any help, and I am sure I will have more questions along the way…
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #160 on: Jul 11, 2016, 03:25 »
Why would he want to leave a journeyman job to become an apprentice?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #161 on: Jul 11, 2016, 06:05 »
Why would he want to leave a journeyman job to become an apprentice?

medical benefits, work locale predictability, opportunity to advance in Operations/etc., LTD/STD, schedule predictability, group life insurance, educational reimbursement, education equivalency credits, one income household, etcetera,...

to the OP, check your PMs,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #162 on: Jul 11, 2016, 06:29 »
He is a low voltage electrician in a small company. Not a lineman, but still has an impressive resume. But yes, he has topped out in his company and would start out making 1/3 more than he does now as an AO in a nuc plant. After his 2 years training, he would be making triple, and I could quit my job because his income would more than cover it (I make $40,000 as a merchandise manager). He would get double paid vacation, outage pay, and we were offered the opportunity to live with a family member who would charge us next to nothing so we could save up a house payment and get on our feet (which would make relocation easier) and we would love to relocate to that state. In short, we have every reason to want this position and relocate. :-)
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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #163 on: Jul 11, 2016, 07:34 »
Actually no one has an "in" with HR. HR doesnt hire and anyone who claims to have an in is flat out lying.

Next speed counts more than accuracy. If you dont get enough questions done you fail. If you get 19 out of 19 right but you needed to answer 20 questions the guy who gets 17 right wins.

Last I coach guys on how to pass this test and last I checked I am 23 for 23. I have a fool proof method that works. You need an ASVAB test book

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #164 on: Jul 12, 2016, 11:14 »
How do you "coach" guys to pass this test? Also, I purchased two books which should be coming in Wednesday (Barron’s Mechanical Aptitude and Spatial Relations Test, ASVAB practice test book) and bought Geometry for dummies, I picked up an ASVAB study guide from the local library. Any other coaching we can get we will gladly accept. 

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #165 on: Jul 12, 2016, 06:59 »
An ASVAB book should have a certain number of tests. Take test one at a normal pace. Then shave 3 minutes off and take test two. Then 3 to 5 minutes off and take test 3 and so on and so on. Also on the reading just go straight to the questions. Most can be answered without doing the reading and those that cant are direct lookuos ie the 4th question will be in the 4th sentence or paragraph

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #166 on: Jul 13, 2016, 10:11 »
Rerun- Thank you for this valuable information. Can you expand on one thought? The direct lookups (I believe you meant), I am not following your example. Are you implying that there is a correlation between what number the question is and which sentence/paragraph its answer will be found in the question?

Thank you a ton! I picked him up 4 more books at another library yesterday. He spent his birthday night studying...

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #167 on: Jul 13, 2016, 01:36 »
..... He spent his birthday night studying...

well, at least he was home, I spent 3 birthdays studying one thing or another under the Arctic Circle, in the wintertime,... :P ;) :) 8)


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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #168 on: Jul 13, 2016, 01:48 »
Yes by direct lookup I mean exactly that. Question 1 will come directly from the first passage

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #169 on: Jul 13, 2016, 02:38 »
Yes by direct lookup I mean exactly that. Question 1 will come directly from the first passage


been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #170 on: Sep 19, 2017, 07:33 »
So I took the eei mass test for Entergy today and I was wondering if anyone knew how it was scored. Has anyone else taken the test for this company, etc

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #171 on: Sep 19, 2017, 10:10 »
Scored?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #172 on: Sep 20, 2017, 12:26 »
Yes, is there a certain amount of questions most plants want you to get correct? What is the target?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #173 on: Sep 21, 2017, 10:59 »
You have to answer enough questions to get it graded then get a certain amount correct

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #174 on: Sep 21, 2017, 05:42 »
Someone I know took the test and thinks they only got 9-10 questions right on one of the 15 question test, and maybe 30 out of 40 on another, but 100 on the other 2, is there any reference that this will be a fail for the EEI tech test?

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #175 on: Sep 21, 2017, 09:26 »
No

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Re: EEI CAST, POSS, MASS, TECH and SO/PD tests
« Reply #176 on: Sep 24, 2017, 12:54 »
Really scary to hear there is no info, i've read someone claim it requires a minimum of 11 questions answered so i've just been assuming a failure notice is coming. Does anyone know if the test is a random question bank or is it basically always the same set of questions, i'm curious if familiarity helps at all. I ask because one co-worker mentioned a section about shapes and that never happened with this other person in the test.. I've been trying to find material to help my friend and eventually myself to take this test in lieu of this potential failure, but I am having some issues. The practice test for the EEI are quite good, however once you routinely do the graphical aspect of the test enough you get to a point where you already know how to find all the solutions without the initial 'shock' of having to interpret all the data. Are there any books, sites, or resources that have many examples of that? I have only found one image on the entire internet after 5 hours of hunting that is similar, which is this.





And sure enough the image trips both of us up a bit until we catch our bearings, that is an experience we'd like to repeat many times to see if our awareness of the concept improves at all. I was also informed that the mechanical aspect of the test is very different than the practice test so i'll also be looking into the books listed in the topic for more material for that. As soon as we find out if it's a failure will determine when money is sunk to try and crunch in better results.. Any other advice is appreciated, this is a desperate situation that I don't want to make public to protect their privacy :(
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