To say that I'm not serious about being a Navy officer is unfair. I may not know everything it entails, but no one does until they are actually carrying out their duties. I've been considering military service since high school and just never found an "in", or program, that i found worthwhile/interesting. I'm not considering joining on an as-needed basis, this doesn't hold me back any though. If I want to join just because I want to, I see nothing wrong with that. So what your saying is that if I get into NUPOC/sign a contract, finish my degree and do a good job of it, I will almost certainly be commissioned as an officer as long as I am judicious about carrying out my duties? Dave