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Offline Rennhack

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« on: Jan 28, 2003, 07:03 »
If anyone has lodging information for this facility, please post it here.

Some people stay 3.5 miles from site in a 2 bedroom apt. and pay $415/ month. It is very plain but quite and clean. 10 miles from there are the big complexes with places for $750-850. There is everything in between. There are techs at work that pay less than $400 for converted houses. I would suggest calling Brad (513)648-5358.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 28, 2003, 07:17 »
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 28, 2003, 07:26 »
Don't forget to vote.  Keep your comments civil.
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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #3 on: Jan 29, 2003, 06:03 »
Nice area, 40 hrs paid sick time, 80 hrs vacation, matching 401K, soft ball, good insurance, decent pay. What more could a tech want.

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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #4 on: Jan 29, 2003, 11:32 »
It wouldn't be fair to rate it now since I worked there when it was a full production facility.  The site was a radiological nightmare.  I liked Cincinnati and the surrounding areas.  
That was sixteen plus years ago so I don't know how things are now.
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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #5 on: Jan 29, 2003, 07:14 »
I really liked working there, the people were so much fun and Mactec people are great too.. Thr only problem was $$$$$$$$$$$$

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #6 on: Jul 29, 2003, 08:57 »
Been there.
Done that.
Got the T shirt to prove it.
Loved it.
Stayed for over 4 years.
People were great.
Area was awesome.
The only thing that could'a drug me away was a house gig....
Let's face facts.....it's a closure contract.
That was the only draw-back.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 29, 2003, 07:15 »
Was there for about 4 1/2 years. Mostly worked for D&D and it was great! Cincinnatti and surrounding areas are nice, plenty of places to go. But as we all know, sometimes you just got to move on.

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« Reply #8 on: Jul 29, 2003, 07:21 »
Went there for a 3 month gig :)6 months later went house  :o 4.5 years after that went into Engineering there - 5 years later went intop Financial Planning for Part time gig and retired full time - 10 years total.
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Re: Fernald
« Reply #9 on: Aug 01, 2003, 02:11 »
Went there after the Navy (92-94)....loved it....loved the area. Worked for Rapid Ray then came back to Tennessee. Eventually found my way back (Oct 98-Apr 99), but, as someone said, it's a closure contract...all over but the singing. Kudos to those still there. I'm on the outside peeking in wondering what could've been, but I'm grateful for the opportunity the Lord gave me and the friends I still have there. It is an awesome place, and I am still friends with Marlin; knew him before he became site co-ordinator, and he'll always be a bud.
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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #10 on: Aug 06, 2003, 11:11 »
Been here for a few years now. It was a great place to work.Now it is going to the dogs.Flour and Mactec are out of control. Alot of things are being blown off just so the Flour managment can get their Big Bonus"s at anyone's expense. Mactec the constr. company"s managment,very very poor. Radcon dept. over looking alot of things to acommate Flour. Was some good times here, labors are great.If your not working here don't come, to many other safe places to work. >:( :P :-/ :-*

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #11 on: Nov 01, 2003, 08:06 »


 I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. I WAS GREAT A ONE TIME. BUT THE TIME IS WEARING THIN. BLDGINGS ARE ALMOST DONE.THE BIG JOB LEFT IS THE SILO'S. AND AS ALWAYS IF YOUR NOT FLOUR TECH. OR A SUCK ASS YOU GET THE WORSE OF THE SHIT.
THE AREA IT SUCKS, TAXES TO HIGH,THE PEOPLE OTHER THAN ON SITE SUCK.CINNCINATI HAS A LOT TO OFFER, BUT NOT WORTH THE EXPENSE. TRAFFIC IS LIKE BEING IN NYC. IT SUCKS.THEN YOU HAVE THE CONTRAC. TECHS. THEM SELVES,ALOT OF GOOD 1'S STILL HERE,BUT THERE ARE A FEW HERE YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR. THIS JOB WILL BE GREAT WHEN IT IS COMPLETE.AND NOTHING IS LEFT OF IT

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #12 on: Nov 04, 2003, 07:12 »
Rapid Ray   >:(  Get your postings off of this website, YOU  FILTHY  APE!!!

(Yep, it's still good!)  ;D

Hey, has the night shift been re-qualified to issue respirators yet?

What a place! Just when you're starting to get bored, something interesting happens!

I'll talk to you later.....YOU  FILTHY  APE!!   [smiley=ear.gif]

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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #13 on: Nov 05, 2003, 06:45 »
:'( Pretty much provincial here - about 40 years behind the times, radiologically.  The sad thing is most of the mice don't know any better! And the local union pretty much runs things.  Fluour management sucks up to them quite regularly and with great vigor.

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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #14 on: Nov 06, 2003, 12:46 »
 It has it's good points and it's bad!  Several old timers there, which allow you to vent towards the side of sanity!  Many of the old house RP staff are still maintaining their jobs on site, which is also a plus for the rest of the industry!  There are a lot of experts at this site, I know because they told me so!

  Have you ever worked DOE!  I believe this is the site, where this statement was coined.  For you, who have never worked DOE, this is not a question, it's a statement, derogatory in nature!  Once a decission is made to proceed with a task, any input on your part, will meet with this statement.  Consider this an oral warning!
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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #15 on: Nov 07, 2003, 08:28 »
GET A CLUE
Any tech worth their weight in fertilizer and has the people skills of a zoo monkey can work this system to death. You guys need to get over yourselves. It ain't about dose...it about cash ;D  get use too it. Been here a while and don't see no reason to leave  making all i want....RU??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Rate Fernald
« Reply #16 on: Nov 07, 2003, 05:24 »
Hey, Salamandar, you hit it right on the nose!  Fertilizer and Zoo Monkey's, couldn't describe the place better myself!  I, for one, am over it!  I do almost as much in a week on Per Diem, than a fourty hour take home at that site!  Fernald has always been the lowest overall paying DOE site for techs and still is!  A forty hour, yearly wage, will make you about 38K, after taxes!  That equals about 5 months of outage work, with Per Diem!  It appears that we have a clue, do you?    
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 09, 2003, 10:16 »
went there in 92.  Went house after 6 months.  4 years later transfered into waste management engineering. Retired in 2002. as for the benie's
1.  Free College degree all the way to PHD if you wanted. And they brought the classes to the site for your benefit.
2.  Excellent Medical Insurance at extremely low cost
3.  Excellent school system at Fairfield especially for the handicap.
4.  Started out making 32k a year base salary and ended up making 53k a year.
5.  Best of all - No more road life.
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Re: Fernald
« Reply #18 on: Jan 16, 2004, 05:14 »
YES THE PLACE IS GREAT IF YOUR A FERNALD TECH. EAT UP ALL THE OVERTIME, BECAUSE THEY CAN SIT AROUND ON THERE ASSES, DO NOTHING AND STILL GET PAID FOR WHAT THEY DO BEST :o

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #19 on: Feb 10, 2004, 12:00 »
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« Reply #20 on: Apr 08, 2004, 11:27 »
If anyone has a favorite hang out, place to shop, or local information for this area please post it here.

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2004, 07:26 »
RAD-GHOST, you read my mind. Still, many good people, and when I was there, company sponsored after work activities ruled. They sponsored teams form softball to 8 ball. Don't know if they still do.

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2004, 11:42 »
I was there from 1999-2003. Most of what everyone said was true. The DOE system is a cash cow just begging to be milked by Contract RCT's. The House people at Fernald get very good benefits. The Contract RCT's get treated pretty fairly well. The Union, Fluor, and DOE have this Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld connection that is predicated on that huge $250 million bonus in June 2006. If you are thinking about going to work there, look elsewhere. This cow is down to the bones, and doesn't have the longevity that most people think it does. As many have stated before me, the money is terrible. The surrounding area is nice, if you are a sports buff. It is also good for hunting, fishing, and outdoor activities, if that's your bag. Weather is shaky, at best. People are pretty laid back.

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2004, 03:16 »
I went to Fernald back when there were three maybe four HPs there in 1991. Rapid Ray was there. I worked at the chemistry labs. It was boring and there were no procedures for anything. Like no procedures to free release clean material from the RCA.
If I would have only known! I could have retired there.
Sounds like not much has changed. The house techs were just as they sound today.
I remember taking all my material like exposure records. All they wanted was a twenty min. whole body count and my driver's license.
I couldn't take the boring job and out I went back into the world of nuke plants. I had sand in my shoes and I liked moving from place to place. It got to be old when the outages went from months to weeks. It was not worth me moving my motor home from place to place.
I've been home for three years and I don't miss anything out there except a lot of friends.
I would like to say hello to Roger Knight and Vicki.  Sorry to hear about Nancy.
I know there are a lot of the ole roadies working there. Hello to all.

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #24 on: Jul 14, 2004, 11:20 »
Tri-County Mall near I-75 and I-275 is a great place to shop.
Miami Whitewater, Circling Hills, Grand Oak, and Pebble Creek are great golf courses within 20 minutes.
Argosy, Grand Victoria and Belterra casinos are across the border in Indiana.
Reds baseball, Bengals football, Cyclones and Mighty Ducks semi-pro hockey, Cincinnati, Dayton, Kentucky and Xavier college ballclubs.
Indianapolis, Lexington, Ky., Columbus, Oh., and Louisville are all less than 2 hours away.
Benihana's downtown and other great restaurants.

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #25 on: Sep 03, 2004, 06:19 »
Rumor has it, the Diem Train finally made it to Ohio, but only for the new, temporary riders!  Anybody know the real deal?
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Re: Fernald
« Reply #26 on: Jan 19, 2005, 09:51 »
I've been at Fernald since 91. I started as a Rad Tech now I'm a QA/QC geek. There is still alot of work to be done and they keep laying people off. Fewer people, more work, long hours, short fuses. The people here are like family. I won't say anything about Fluor. If you can't say something nice...

This area is okay.  The Tri-state area is full of right-wingers and perfect for people who like to kill things (hunt, fish, etc.). I won't really miss it when I leave. I will definitely miss the many wonderful people I have met at Fernald though.

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #27 on: Jan 21, 2005, 01:19 »
:P :P :P :P :P


NO MORE FLOUR PUKES,, IT IS   A BARTLETT  SITE  NOW  LETS HERE IT FOR JIMMY  PRICE,   YEA BABY YOU DID IT
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Re: Fernald
« Reply #28 on: Feb 06, 2005, 08:54 »
Ahhh, Fernald!  Only pleasant memories I have of that job!   When I got there, I found that I had been hand picked for the department I was to work in (thanks for the good word, Big Bird!) because (I'm guessing)  they were happy with thier first "Mound Primadonna"  (again, that would be you, Big Bird!) that by adding another "Primadonna" how could they go wrong?!  LOL  Everybody in our department had such a good time together, no matter who you were with, that it seemed like one big family!  Yea, you had to have thick skin, a good sense of humor, and the ability to defend yourself if you found yourself the whipping child that day!  As far as fun goes, it was off the hook!  As far as knowledge goes, nobody topped our techs!  As for bosses, I will just say, we were 3 for 3.  If two out of three ain't bad then three out of three couldn't be beaten!  By far, the most fun I've had at a job since driving the golf cart and drinking beer at Pebblewood at 7am! 

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Re: Fernald
« Reply #29 on: Feb 08, 2005, 04:31 »
        dont forget the "bird watching" on the north 40..........forgive us our tresspasses

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« Reply #30 on: Apr 11, 2006, 01:14 »
Thanks Old Rad Man- See you at SRS!

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« Reply #31 on: Jul 01, 2006, 10:12 »
For those of you considering going to Fernald, let me say this it is not a bad place to work. But the BUDHEAD YOU WILL work for is TT.  And he is a real piece of crap. Dose not know how to take, or even talk to the Rcts. He is not to be trusted. I know these are not nice words. But the man is really a jerk. And he makes it  a hell hole to work at. He does not have any proffessional skills working with people. I do not understand why he is still there. But this is from one road tek to another, we musch watch out for each other when your working with people like this
« Last Edit: Jul 05, 2006, 11:17 by Nuclear NASCAR »

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« Reply #32 on: Jul 01, 2006, 11:04 »
It really isn't a bad place to work. You are correct. The bad thing about it is this:

Bartlett decided that they would staff with 2 types of technicians.

1. The green RCT that would develop some loyalty to the Big Blue. Kind of an RCT farm club. Triple-A type stuff. They were loaded with expendable techs, so when the first wave of layoffs came, they could terminate them and keep their golden boys and girls at the site.

2. The RCT's that had never worked at Fernald. This was to wash the bad taste of SEC out of Fluor's mouth. SEC didn't do a bad job there, but Bartlett wanted to portray the pretty boy image and not risk bringing in a returnee from the old regime.

From all of the old returnees I have talked to, who tried to get back there, and knew the process at Fernald, all of them said they were rejected. The rumor was that the Site Coordinator (mentioned in the previous post) was fine-tooth combing all the resumes.

OLD RAD MAN: I have never met him and have nothing to say about him, but you should call the Bartlett office, since you obviously have strong feelings. That and a quarter might get you a gumball, but at least you will be heard.

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« Reply #33 on: Jul 01, 2006, 12:19 »
The rumor was that the Site Coordinator (mentioned in the previous post) was fine-tooth combing all the resumes.

Dave,

TT does select who gets accepted, but he is the RPM, not the site co-ordinator.  Ed Carl is the Site Coordinator.  Ed Carl does not have much input on who TT selects.
« Last Edit: Jul 05, 2006, 11:18 by Nuclear NASCAR »

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« Reply #34 on: Jul 02, 2006, 01:27 »
For those of you considering going to Fernald, let me say this it is not a bad place to work. But the BUDHEAD YOU WILL work for is TT.  And he is a real piece of crap. Dose not know how to take, or even talk to the Rcts. He is not to be trusted. I know these are not nice words. But the man is really a jerk. And he makes it  a hell hole to work at. He does not have any proffessional skills working with people. I do not understand why he is still there. But this is from one road tek to another, we musch watch out for each other when your working with people like this

Ok I'm not one to talk bad about someone or sling mud but Old Rad Man is right about TT.

This man has no clue on what a Tech does and has the people skills of a rock. He has time and time again shown what an idiot he is with stupid requirements he puts on his techs like " You WILL be fired if you change the batteries on an instrument. You must have a qualified Instrument tech change the batteries on any instrument" Excuse me but I think most Techs are smart enough to change batteries.

He has also pulled the quals on some techs that have proved him wrong on issues with the DOE rep and he has also given time off to a supervisor that made him look like the idiot he is when the supervisor could quote 835 when asked about an issue and TT couldn't.

Now as for the Contract info asked for, Ed Carl is the site Co-ordinatror with Bartlett. The site is almost finished and is winding down and Stoller will take over site oversite soon.

Dave alot of calls have been made to the home office about TT and also alot of folks have talked to Ed Carl but so far it's fallen on deaf ears.

My advice to anyone thinking of coming to Fernald in the last months of this dieing site is don't bother, the money with diem may be good but the idiot you have to work for will make your time at Fernald not worth it
« Last Edit: Jul 06, 2006, 06:16 by Nuclear NASCAR »

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« Reply #35 on: Jul 03, 2006, 08:42 »
I've never been there. The word I get from people who have is that TT is the one who says whether or not you go, and I do know several very good techs that submitted there and TT nixed them without explanation. I've worked with some people who know him very well and have nothing good to say about him. I've known Ed Carl for several years and, while his decisions as Site Coordinator/Project Manager don't always please the techs involved (he is, after all, Bartlett's rep, not ours) I know first hand that he is reasonable and honest. Also, it's not in Bartlett's interest to reject techs from a site (especially one they're having a hard time staffing) for superflous reasons.
I won't be submitting to "Fernobal," not because of Ed, but because of TT.
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« Reply #36 on: Jul 05, 2006, 08:00 »
Dave,

TT does select who gets accepted, but he is the RPM, not the site co-ordinator.  Ed Carl is the Site Coordinator.  Ed Carl does not have much input on who Tristian selects.

I stand corrected. I think we can all agree here. The common thread is that the RPM has his agenda in selecting RCT's, and no matter how many people complain about him, the RPM's company has chosen to ignore the feedback from the people who want to work for them.
« Last Edit: Jul 06, 2006, 06:48 by Nuclear NASCAR »

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« Reply #37 on: Jul 06, 2006, 06:47 »
Ed Carl?? Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a long time. He's definitely a good man. I hope he arrives tomorrow for the audit. I haven't seen him in 20 years.

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« Reply #38 on: Jul 06, 2006, 07:03 »
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« Reply #39 on: Jul 06, 2006, 09:58 »
Dang ya'll chill out no need for all this cu**ing

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« Reply #40 on: Jul 07, 2006, 05:57 »
Well now, Thomas Allen Stafford, this place riled you up right nice didn't it?

Another post like that one, and you will be down in my neighborhood of karma. Remember, people hide behind their nicknames and push smite buttons, instead of standing up and saying what you said.

Oh, and you lose karma for spelling awakening wrong.....;)
Some day you all will get a rude awakining and have to go out in to the real world of professional health physics   

Still, a very aggressive post, brother....Cheers
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« Reply #41 on: Jul 07, 2006, 07:29 »
On a professional level, most of you are truly incompetent.

Mr. Stafford, I guess that you are just trying to stand up for your friend, who by the way I don't know, and I respect that. I do however think you may be painting with a rather broad brush when you make a statement such as most RCT's are incompetent. I will admit that I too have encountered many technicians over the years who did not seem to have a good grasp of the finer points of Health Physics, but I don't think that I would say most RCT's are incompetent based on a few folks. That would be no different than saying a few individuals of a certain religious, ethnic, or social class make the whole group bad. I think you see my point.

You render your defense of your friend less effective by making such broad brush accusations and open yourself up to fiery responses that are sure to come. We all know how HP techs are not shy about venting  ;). I would suggest a more subtle approach. If one is truely a "professional", then respond in a professional manner when attacked, not in a mud throwing contest.

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« Reply #42 on: Jul 07, 2006, 08:49 »
I do however think you may be painting with a rather broad brush when you make a statement such as most RCT's are incompetent.

I think he said most RCT's at Fernald were incompetent, not that most of the RCT's everywhere are incompetent.  So the brush isn't THAT broad.

Also note that there was $33,000 in fines to Flour Fernald for PAAA citations recently, one such citation was for having under-qualified technicians. (I was on the team that audited Fernald)

Those violations are why Flour and Bartlett brought TT on site.  His directive was to weed out the under qualified, and bring in only the highest qualified people available.

With that said, I know of at least one highly qualified person who TT rejected. One such person (we’ll call him "Duane"), has a great resume, with a college degree in HP, many years of experience in FSS and D&D (several of them at Rocky Flats as a RCT and a Supervisor).  I know they both worked at the flats, but beyond that, I don’t know TT's reasons for rejecting "Duane", and I will not attempt to guess.

I do know that TT is attempting to do what he was hired to do.  Some jobs are truly thankless jobs.  His is one of them.  When you are hired to make the hard decisions, and you make them… you won’t be making any friends.

I don't know TT, never met him.  But I do know the story, from many sides, and from many angles.  The general consensus is that he isn't a people person, but that he is smart, and does what needs to be done.
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« Reply #43 on: Jul 07, 2006, 09:08 »
His directive was to weed out the under qualified, and bring in only the highest qualified people available.

With that said, I know of at least one highly qualified person who TT rejected. One such person (we'll call him Duane), has a great resume, with a college degree in HP, many years of experience in FSS and D&D (several of them at Rocky Flats as a RCT and a Supervisor).  I know they both worked at the flats, but beyond that, I don't know TT's reasons for rejecting "Duane", and I will not attempt to guess.

Let me play a little devil's advocate here.....If you failed to achieve your directive, while working for Bartlett, they would be obligated to discipline you for dereliction of duty.

Case in point:Duane
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« Reply #44 on: Jul 07, 2006, 09:19 »
Dave, ever wonder why your not the front man?

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« Reply #45 on: Jul 07, 2006, 09:42 »
Appreciate the thought, RG.....It's all good in Ashtabula, Baby

I guess my thinking was this: If Fluor and Bartlett brought this fella in to be a calming force, and all these experienced, competent RCT's tell me they were turned down for Fernald, that raises a question.

Is he performing the company's directive, or is he the wrong man for the job?

In my recent experience at the Fernald facility, most of the RCT's that I have encountered would not understand what the term "Applied Health Physics means." On a professional level, most of you are truly incompetent.

If you look at this previous post, it tells you that the RCT's at Fernald, who were "hand-picked" by Stafford's friend of 28 years, are not cutting the mustard. Therefore, the directive from Bartlett has not been met and the problem is not being addressed. Maybe his selection process was skewed and he ended up with all these incompetent RCT's.

Who knows? I have an old-school RCT living in my house, who is working at Fernald, and I am glad he doesn't visit Nukeworker very often. Otherwise, he may want to discuss how incompetent he is, with the 28-year friend of the Fernald RPM.
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« Reply #46 on: Jul 07, 2006, 11:10 »
This is my first post on this web site. I am suprised that so many of you have negative comments about TT. I  have known and worked with him for more than 28 years. In my professional opinion he is quite simply a professional engaging  in the very complex field of applied health physics. In my recent experience at the Fernald facility, most of the RCT's that I have encountered would not understand what the term "Applied Health Physics means." On a professional level, most of you are truly incompetent. You may not like this comment , but the truth is what it is. How many of you so called RCT's could explain  exactly what "associated corpusular emission radiation fields" means ? What are the implications ? Should we be concerned about this ? Surprise, surprise. I have personnally had some of you ask me how to read a Bicron dose rate meter ? How to convert U/R to M/R. You got to be kidding me. How do you convert CPM to DPM. You know who you are. YOUR JOB I S TO PROTECT THE WORKER FOR UNNESSARY EXPOSURE TO RADIATION OR RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL. MOST OF YOU CAN'T DO IT. Why when you express your concerns about TT don't you use your real and not a computer nick name ? I don't have a problem at all with this, my name is T A S, HPS.NRRPT,HPSPRS,ANS....You know who I am. TT is truly a professional, you on the other hand are nothing more than jits. Some day you all will get a rude awakining and have to go out in to the real world of professional health physics, be prepared to work at a car wash. Don't like this ? Reply, you got my E-mail address I did not hide it...Give Respect..Get..Respect..Act like an a**hole, get treated like one...   

A few things I'll say here.

1. Sorry for breaking Fourm rules for one. I was about 1/2 tuned up when I posted and forgot rule 7
2. Mr Stafford I respect you for standing up for your friend and I will say TT does know Health Physics and is a very intelligent. On the other hand I stand by my remark he's an idiot, in my experience he conducts busniess on a knee-jerk reaction before he gets all the facts from all the party's and will not over turn one of his decisions when all the facts are placed before him.
3. I stand by my remark he has the people skills of a Rock
4. I also agree with Stafford's remark on Fernald Techs 95%. There is that other 5% that do know what they are doing and are darn good Techs. I may not be the best tech in the world but I do have over 15 yrs in this business and I do know what I'm doing.
5. I have talked to some of the Tech's onsite that have known and worked with TT in the past and yes some as long as you Mr. Stafford, and from all of them I get the same response. " No field exp, book smart but no common sense and has never done any job coverage EVER, black and white and even if he's wrong will not admit it.
6. In TT's attempt to weed out underqualified techs he has opted to bring in alot of commercial techs looking for diem for a few months and have a very hard time adjusting to low level contamination vs Dose that they are used to workiing with. I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing just are not used to frisking dirt.

All in all I have enjoyed my time at Fernald but now it's time to go.


 
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« Reply #47 on: Jul 07, 2006, 04:01 »
Where will you go to celebrate your 16th year in this business?

You will miss Oktoberfest 2006 in Cincinnati...
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« Reply #48 on: Jul 10, 2006, 11:40 »
okay, so put me in with the 95% of the Techs who are incompetent if you have to but even so, I really want to know what "associated corpusular emission radiation fields" is all about...  I am positive I've never heard that phrase before...
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« Reply #49 on: Jul 10, 2006, 09:32 »
Here is a excerpt of a paper I found

Chapman's interest in geomagnetic, ionospheric, and auroral observations was only part of his interest in understanding their origin. He was also instrumental in developing the dynamical theory of the origin of the various phases of the geomagnetic storm. In 1882, Balfour Stewart pointed out that the daily variation of the geomagnetic field at the surface of Earth must be caused by electric currents in the upper atmosphere. It was recognized by Stormer that Maxwell's equations require that the observed magnetic storm variations be associated with electric currents. In 1924 Schmidt pointed out that the main phase of a magnetic storm was equivalent to the addition of a southward field of 0.5 x 10-3 to 3.0 x l0-3 gauss across Earth, and postulated that the current associated with this field was in the form of a ring with the ions circulating westward around Earth and the electrons eastward. There was, at the time, a great variety of ideas on the cause of the westward ring current, invoking ultraviolet effects, solar corpuscular emission, etc., in association with solar activity. In 1930, Chapman and Ferraro set up the specific line of thinking that has evolved into the present-day understanding of the geomagnetic storm. They pointed out that the delay of geomagnetic and auroral activity of one or more days following a solar outburst rules out the ideas based on electromagnetic radiation from the sun. Corpuscular emissions with velocities of the order of 103 km/sec must be responsible. Adopting the point made by Lindemann that the solar corpuscular emission must be electrically neutral (because of the enormous electrostatic forces which arise when even very small numbers of charges of one sign are carried away from the sun), Chapman and Ferraro pointed out, and illustrated with a number of idealized examples, that the impact of a cloud or stream of electrons and ions against the geomagnetic field compresses the geomagnetic field. The compression produces an increase in the horizontal component at the surface of Earth. They pointed out that this must be the origin of the initial phase of the magnetic storm. They showed that the incident stream of particles and the geomagnetic field do not interpenetrate, the boundary layer being only 100 km or less in thickness. This picture was verified thirty years later by direct satellite observations of the magnetic field and the solar wind plasma. It is interesting to note, too, that the work of Chapman and Ferraro on the impact of charged particles against the boundary of a magnetic field has been taken up and vastly extended since 1950 in connection with the dynamics of laboratory plasma.

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« Reply #50 on: Jul 11, 2006, 09:43 »
the only part of that i understood is that it's not licensed material...   

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« Reply #51 on: Aug 14, 2006, 07:29 »
Word on the street is that "TT" has quit the Fernald Closure Project.

Why? Who knows the scoop? Who is in the know? Was it the pressure from the Nukeworker posts? Did Mr. Stafford advise him to leave, due to all the incompetence?

Your reactions...........

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« Reply #52 on: Aug 27, 2006, 10:05 »
Dave I'd like to say that TT left because of the pressure from the posts here but the truth is he left on his own accord.

TT was a by the book man, black and white and would not accept anything in a grey area as right. Well at Fernald there is no black and white or even grey. If you can't do busniess the Fluor way then you might as well quit and TT had enough I guess and did just that.

Don't get me wrong I didn't like TT and I still think he dosen't have any clue what it's like to be a Tech as he has never done any job coverage but I have to say he told Fluor to kiss his @ss and for that I respect him more than I did which was none at all.

RadX, M Schnyder has moved on to another DOE site and S Crownover left the busniess and is lounging by a pool in the south. Not many of the old safe shutdown crew left here let alone any of the old crowd.

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« Reply #53 on: Aug 30, 2006, 09:06 »
so who's running circus now?
He grows a little garden in the backyard by the fence.
Nowadays he is consuming what he grows in self defense.
He gets out there in the Twighlight Zone cuz it just don't make no sense.

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« Reply #54 on: Aug 31, 2006, 09:34 »
Rumor has it that a large amount of yellow cake was found in a supposedly clean section of the Fernald site.  Does anybody know if there's truth to this?  Are the TDU units (from WPRAP) already demobilized?

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« Reply #55 on: Sep 01, 2006, 12:26 »
Dave Warren, never thought I would see you on this board.  How is it going?  Checking to see with Bellefonte is going to starting construction again.  Worked there in '82-85 and would like to go back again.

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« Reply #56 on: Sep 01, 2006, 09:21 »
Dave Warren, never thought I would see you on this board.  How is it going?  Checking to see with Bellefonte is going to starting construction again.  Worked there in '82-85 and would like to go back again.
Are DW or Bellefonte at Fernald??
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Nowadays he is consuming what he grows in self defense.
He gets out there in the Twighlight Zone cuz it just don't make no sense.

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« Reply #57 on: Sep 01, 2006, 10:53 »
Actually, Bellefonte is a nuclear site.
I am not at Fernald. I am in Ashtabula, Ohio.

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« Reply #58 on: Oct 26, 2006, 05:51 »
 >:( worst job i ever had. most screwed up place i ever worked. glad to have left. hated john l.

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« Reply #59 on: Oct 31, 2006, 10:03 »
Hhhmmmmmmm .... Yellow Cake? This wasn't found say ..... about halfway between the material handling building and the rail yard maintenance house was it? Say ... on the far side of the gravel road about sixty yards before the last rail crossing? Right next to the base of the 100' light? I found that stuff back in about 1999-2000 when they were digging to hook up the electrical ballast for that light when they put it in. A house tech girl with the initials CC and I raised the issue that they should look further for the stuff since we were only about 4 feet deep when we hit it, but the issue never got any more attention. If that is where they found it, sounds like it finally got the attention it needed. Any idea how much it turned out to be?

By the way: I'm the Senior HP Analyst house at Prairie Island these days, but if I could get say .... 15years out of Fernald, I'd go back in a heartbeat ... in the right position.  ;)

Ah yes ... Back to the land of Dave and Buster ... best guys to work with ... and Rapid Ray, Foster, Gant,Williams,Risley ..... the list is about a mile long. Back then, we got the job done, the techs knew what they were doing, they took some pride in the project and by God we kicked ass while being taken good care of. We had some 'team building exercises' which made some of Bartlett's Christmas parties of old look tame. The work was a bitch sometimes, but the people made it worth it. I'm sorry I had to leave, but I would have had to wait for several people to die before I would have had an advancement opportunity. I was all degreed up with noplace to go. Then the industry in general started ringing my phone off the hook. It was just a matter of time before the money got big enough to draw me away from the bomb factory which was and is so dear to my heart.

Dave ... give Ashtabula hell. I miss ya. Buster, wherever the hell you are, I miss you too. Thanx for letting me hide my new crotch rocket in your garage until I broke the news of its purchase to my old lady. Ray, God bless ya. You'll be glad to know that my youngest boy ended up a preacher too. He's married and lives in Sheboygan, WI now. Leslie ..... Wow. 'nuf said there. Terry, Capano, railyard gang, Milewski, Goetz, Pat, Pat Jr. .........ALL of the old guard: I miss you too. May our respective roads cross again.

Until then, I am saddened by the posts I have seen about Fernald. It was my home for years. I had friends there who are no longer with us. Fernald was their last gig and they were happy to be there. I hate to think what has happened to change everyone's slant on the place. I wish there was something I could do.

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« Reply #60 on: Nov 15, 2006, 01:30 »
Cincinnati area is great.



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« Reply #61 on: Nov 15, 2006, 06:04 »
There was alot of stuff done there that I never seen done elsewhere, but you had all the hours you want and money was great and on a sadder note my truck will never be the same. :'(
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« Reply #62 on: Aug 19, 2008, 10:31 »
The Cincinnati Enquirer has an article today about the opening to the public of Fernald.  The Nature Preserve and Visitors Center.  Fernald has come full circle from “Weapons to Wetlands”.  For now.  It still has the low level storage cells .  The link to the artcicle:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080818/NEWS01/808180381/1168/NEWS

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« Reply #63 on: Aug 19, 2008, 10:41 »
The Cincinnati Enquirer has an article today about the opening to the public of Fernald.  The Nature Preserve and Visitors Center.  Fernald has come full circle from “Weapons to Wetlands”.  For now.  It still has the low level storage cells .  The link to the artcicle:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080818/NEWS01/808180381/1168/NEWS


I have alot of memories, good and bad from that place.
It was an interesting joint, no doubt.

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« Reply #64 on: Aug 19, 2008, 12:11 »
Well I was there until the end of the project and I can tell you there is still so much crap still buired there that one of these days some kid playing over there is going to come home with some pretty yellow stuff in a jar and tell his mom " Look what I found! "

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« Reply #65 on: Aug 19, 2008, 12:21 »
That's why they made it "Wetlands".......Water is a great shielding...:P

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« Reply #66 on: Aug 20, 2008, 04:03 »
thats why they only put a few walking trails in certain areas, every place else is still off limits
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« Reply #67 on: Aug 24, 2008, 02:58 »
Hey Couch ... Grab a shovel and go out around the base of the hundred foot light pole closest to the railroad tracks out by the railyard engine maint. building and dig down about three feet or so ... I dare ya  ;)

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« Reply #68 on: Aug 25, 2008, 06:07 »
that area was excavated about 2 1/2 years ago
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« Reply #69 on: Jul 09, 2010, 12:39 »
 :) This is a way late post I know...

Couch...is this the same JCouch I worked with?  Are you still at Fernald, baby sitting the water treatment plant? Who all is at Fernald?

I guess I fall in that 95% of the bad RCT's that were at Fernald in the last years. Oh well...I made money, I had new experiences and I worked hard and tried to stay out of trouble. Some of my dearest friends were made at Fernald. They know who they are.  As a Westener, Cincinnati was a culture shock. I come from a big city too, but the East is much different than the West. I was glad to be there for a short time.  I grew up alot in Ohio....

As for TT...I heard all this bad stuff while I was there.  I got along with him and he didn't lay me off.  Couldn't be all bad.  Besides...he drove a great lime green VW beetle....

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« Reply #70 on: Jul 13, 2010, 11:13 »
i was still there untill about 3months ago, i should have left when everyone else got laid off. im in piketon now


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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2017, 06:49 »
Where are Roger and Vickie Knight in Cincinnati?

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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2017, 09:17 »
Where are Roger and Vickie Knight in Cincinnati?

Check PMs, I won't give you an address but I can let him know you are trying to contact him. Personal info should be limited on a public forum.

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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2017, 12:31 »
tell rk3 (vivkie 2) aye said high two. he n eye share birthdays.
quando omni flunkus moritati

dubble eye, dubble yew, dubble aye!

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« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2017, 07:05 »
tell rk3 (vivkie 2) aye said high two. he n eye share birthdays.

His birthday is very appropriate for him.  ;)

 


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