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1st class exam
« on: Oct 30, 2009, 01:27 »
Im looking to pick up 1st class first time around, so I want to start studying now. Is there a good resource for us? With our obvious lack of focus on the military aspect of our job, there's not much focus on advancement around here (or haircuts for that matter). I know a good chunk is BMR, but I can cram that in pretty easily. When I picked up 2nd, I remember there were a lot of plant operations for multiple platforms, and seemingly random questions. Is the 1st class test the same way?

Thanks in advance. 

(p.s. if the test DOES cover mulitple plant operations, how would I go about studying s9g's? O.o)

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #1 on: Oct 30, 2009, 01:45 »
Don't they publish a bibliography that gives the references for the topics of the exam?
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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #2 on: Oct 30, 2009, 01:51 »
https://www2.netc.navy.mil/advancement/aesg/index.htm

LOTS of information available on the BUPERS site.  I recommend you start there, which will lead you to the link above.  The first class exam is geared towards a person ready to take the next step and pick up that EWS/PPWS qual card and get started.
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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #3 on: Oct 30, 2009, 02:00 »
They do publish a list.  I've gone through the trouble of getting it from the CNET's website, although I'm sure he's seen this list before.

MMN1 BIBs for March 2010 advancement exam:

Occupational References
  • COMFLTFORCOMINST 4790.3, VOL V, JFMM - QUALITY MAINTENANCE
  • NAVEDTRA 14105, FLUID POWER
  • NAVSEA 0940-LP-007-9010, SSBN726 CLASS STEAM AND ELECTRIC PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0948-LP-012-5000, STANDARD NAVY VALVES
  • NAVSEA 0960-LP-001-4010, SSN688 CLASS STEAM AND ELECTRIC PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0989-026-1000, A4W/A1G REACTOR PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0989-036-0000, A4W STEAM PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0989-040-8000, S6G REACTOR PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0989-053-6000, SSBN726 CLASS REACTOR PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA 0989-064-3000, CLEANLINESS REQUIREMENTS FOR NUCLEAR PROPULSION PLANT MAINTENANCE BY FORCES AFLOAT
  • NAVSEA 0989-150-0000, STANDARD NAVY NUCLEAR VALVES AND AUXILIARY EQUIPMENT
  • NAVSEA 389-0152, WATER CHEMISTRY CONTROL
  • NAVSEA S0400-AD-URM-010/TUM, TAG-OUT USERS MANUAL
  • NAVSEA S8921-GE-TXT-000, T-24, BASIC REACTOR PROTECTION AND SAFETY
  • NAVSEA S8921-TG-TXT-010, T-7, REACTOR PROTECTION AND SAFETY
  • NAVSEA S8921-TJ-TXT-000, T-9, REACTOR PRINCIPLES
  • NAVSEA S8921-TK-TXT-010, T-10, WATER CHEMISTRY FUNDAMENTALS VOLUME I
  • NAVSEA S8921-TK-TXT-020, T-10, WATER CHEMISTRY FUNDAMENTALS VOLUME II
  • NAVSEA S8921-TM-TXT-000, T-12, BASIC ELECTRICAL THEORY MANUAL
  • NAVSEA S8921-TP-TXT-000, T-14, APPLIED MECHANICAL PRINCIPLES
  • NAVSEA S9086-CN-STM-030/CH-079V3, NSTM CH-079 VOL 3, DAMAGE CONTROL-ENGINEERING CASUALTY CONTROL
  • NAVSEA S9086-G9-STM-010/CH-231, NSTM CH-231, PROPULSION AND SSTG STEAM TURBINES
  • NAVSEA S9086-HK-STM-010/CH-241, NSTM CH-241, PROPULSION REDUCTION GEARS, COUPLINGS, CLUTCHES AND ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS
  • NAVSEA S9086-HN-STM-010/CH-244, NSTM CH-244, PROPULSION BEARINGS AND SEALS
  • NAVSEA S9086-HY-STM-010/CH-254, NSTM CH-254, CONDENSERS, HEAT EXCHANGERS, AND AIR EJECTORS
  • NAVSEA S9086-KC-STM-010/CH-300, NSTM CH-300, ELECTRIC PLANT-GENERAL
  • NAVSEA S9086-RH-STM-010/CH-503, NSTM CH 503, PUMPS
  • NAVSEA S9086-RK-STM-010/CH-505, NSTM CH-505, PIPING SYSTEMS
  • NAVSEA S9086-RW-STM-010/CH-516, NSTM CHAP 516, REFRIGERATION SYTEMS
  • NAVSEA S9086-SY-STM-010/CH-551, NSTM CH-551, COMPRESSED AIR PLANTS AND SYSTEMS
  • NAVSEA S9211-87-MMA-000, SSN 774 CLASS STEAM AND ELECTRIC PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA S9213-33-MMA-000/(V), RADIOLOGICAL CONTROLS FOR SHIPS
  • NAVSEA S9213-37-MAN-000, S9G REACTOR PLANT MANUAL
  • NAVSEA S9213-41-MAN-000/(C), ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT MANUAL FOR NAVAL NUCLEAR PROPULSION PLANTS
  • NAVSEAINST 4790.8, SHIPS` MAINTENANCE AND MATERIAL MANAGEMENT (3-M) MANUAL

Professional Military Knowledge References
  • BUPERSINST 1430.16, ADVANCEMENT MANUAL FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF ENLISTED PERSONNEL OF U.S. NAVY AND U.S. NAVAL RESERVE
  • BUPERSINST 1610.10, NAVY PERFORMANCE EVALUATION SYSTEM
  • CPPD-LEAD09-003 (PH-1), PETTY OFFICER FIRST CLASS SELECTEE LEADERSHIP COURSE, PHASE ONE STUDENT GUIDE
  • CPPD-LEAD09-003 (PH-2), PETTY OFFICER FIRST CLASS SELECTEE LEADERSHIP COURSE, PHASE TWO STUDENT GUIDE
  • NAVEDTRA 14145, MILITARY REQUIREMENTS FOR PETTY OFFICER FIRST CLASS
  • NAVEDTRA 14325, MILITARY REQUIREMENTS, BASIC (BMR)
  • NAVEDTRA 14504, MILITARY REQUIREMENTS FOR PETTY OFFICERS THIRD AND SECOND CLASS
  • NAVPERS 15560, NAVAL MILITARY PERSONNEL MANUAL
  • NAVPERS 15665, U.S. NAVY UNIFORM REGULATIONS
  • NWP 3-07.2, NAVY DOCTRINE FOR ANTITERRORISM/FORCE PROTECTION
  • OPNAVINST 1420.1, ENLISTED TO OFFICER COMMISSIONING PROGRAMS APPLICATION ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL
  • OPNAVINST 1740.5A, PERSONAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT (PFM) EDUCATION, TRAINING AND COUNSELING PROGRAM
  • OPNAVINST 3500.39, OPERATIONAL RISK MANAGEMENT
  • OPNAVINST 5350.4, DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE PREVENTION AND CONTROL
  • OPNAVINST 5370.2, NAVY FRATERNIZATION POLICY
  • SECNAV M-5510.30, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY PERSONNEL SECURITY PROGRAM
  • SECNAVINST 5300.26, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY (DON) POLICY ON SEXUAL HARASSMENT
  • U.S. NAVY REGULATIONS, U.S. NAVY REGULATIONS

The 1st class exam tends focus more on paperwork, evals, leadership, and (of course) uniform regulations.  There is still a focus on technical proficiency, but less than the 2nd class exam.  As far as the S9G Reactor Plant Manual and other similar documents, there's not really a good way of getting ahold of one of those.  If you're fortunate, you can talk to a submarine guy who is (or was) on that platform.  Other than that, you're out of luck.

Remember however, that you are not competing for advancement against submarine nukes.  They have their own quotas and advancement percentages.  You do take a common exam, however.  If you come across a question like that...make an educated guess, based on what you learned at prototype.
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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #4 on: Oct 30, 2009, 02:36 »
You might also want to order a Northstar study guide (google 'northstar study guide').  They contain questions and answers for all of the non-nuke sections of the exam.  Most of us nukes are just about equal on plant ops, and the military portion will really bump up your score. I STRONGLY recommend ordering a Northstar study guide. Best of luck to you.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 30, 2009, 05:46 »
SOVBOB -> I know about the BIB's, but theres no way to study ALL that crap lol. Thank you for taking the time to get that for me though. Im merely looking for  more "focused" study material to be honest. Those books are just ... jesus.  lol.

withroaj -> I'll check it out. Never heard of it  :o thanks :)

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #6 on: Oct 30, 2009, 06:10 »
SOVBOB -> I know about the BIB's, but theres no way to study ALL that crap lol. Thank you for taking the time to get that for me though. Im merely looking for  more "focused" study material to be honest. Those books are just ... jesus.  lol.

withroaj -> I'll check it out. Never heard of it  :o thanks :)

Going back over some of your previous posts....

Seems to me like you might trolling just a bit...

there is no way you are eligible for first class....

If I read your old posts correctly, you couldn't have been an E5 for longer then one year....due to your previous medical issues and your inability to re-enlist.  So, you'd be at least one year away from even testing for E6

And, I find it hard to believe with the attitude you portray in your posts that you would get an EP as junior E5....so, you'd be two years at a minimum away from taking the E6 exam.....

So, things to me just don't add up.

No wonder your karma is so low!


« Last Edit: Oct 30, 2009, 06:12 by LT Dan »

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #7 on: Oct 30, 2009, 09:22 »
Going back over some of your previous posts....

Seems to me like you might trolling just a bit...

there is no way you are eligible for first class....

If I read your old posts correctly, you couldn't have been an E5 for longer then one year....due to your previous medical issues and your inability to re-enlist.  So, you'd be at least one year away from even testing for E6

And, I find it hard to believe with the attitude you portray in your posts that you would get an EP as junior E5....so, you'd be two years at a minimum away from taking the E6 exam.....

So, things to me just don't add up.

No wonder your karma is so low!






Well said. I love the "please tell me what to study" followed by the "well that's way too much to study, I don't want to work THAT hard" tone of his posts.

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #8 on: Oct 30, 2009, 10:14 »
After re-reading this and doing a little search of my own, I think its probably appropriate to post this:


Allow me to make this PERFECTLY CLEAR FOR YOU....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #9 on: Oct 30, 2009, 10:19 »
In the quiet words of JustinHEMI, well played, sir. Well played.
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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #10 on: Oct 30, 2009, 11:31 »
:)

Some people never take a hint.

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #11 on: Oct 31, 2009, 01:03 »
The lousy part is that sovbob took X amount of time out of his life for this,.... ::)

The treat will be when CarlosMurphy's resume crosses one of us "old-timers" inbox  :P

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #12 on: Oct 31, 2009, 01:10 »
Indeed. :P

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Re: 1st class exam
« Reply #13 on: Oct 31, 2009, 01:11 »
Speaking of resume's and inboxes...are any of you old-timers hiring NLOs?  I seem to have an acute lack of employment these days (plenty of time to look up BIBs).

edit:  Yes, I know this is off-topic and has nothing to do with the 1st class exam.  Sorry.
« Last Edit: Oct 31, 2009, 01:14 by sovbob »
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