Talk about Bartlett

[RAD-GHOST]

"knowing full well if he burns Bartlett, then he's not going to work for a while"

Now that's Funny!

Remo, there are just to many companies looking for techs!  Actually I believe the probation list is probably the "A+ Preferred" list at this time.  The company doesn't care to influence the people that are already working for them!  They want the one's that aren't!  Another interesting concept of the probation list, every tech on probation is a resource for the competitor!   

I could care less who I work for, so long as the money is right and the site doesn't treat contractors like a piece of dung!

Have a Great One.........RG

[Mike McFarlin]

Hardly anyone gets an excellent on evaluations. For example, I received a "good" on attendance when I was there everyday on time without a tardy or missed day. Well, how does one achieve an excellent? I think Site Coordinators need to have new direction on evaluations or just don't do them. Was told on one outage, not long ago, that no one ever sees these evaluations and my response was, why are you doing them?

[OldHP]

Had to jump in - I'll take this one Eric (No I'm not a Bartlett employee)

Bartlett (like every other contract company) has certain customers that require the contract company to have an evaluation policy/procedure/program.  And some demand to see the past X evaluations.  To even be considered for the bid/proposal you have to submit that PPP.  And it has to be universal!  So even if it doesn't mean an ounce of feathers to customer Y, you have to do it all over, for professional staff and day laborers.

While it seems like a chore and a bore for the locations that don't require it (they generally have their own rating system as to if (and when) they will accept that person back again) it has to be done.  It is discriminatory if you don't make it universal and someone would try to make a test case (and probably win) if it wasn't done at all locations each time.

I'll agree with Marssim that if it is done right it is a tool when you have to use it.  Having been there, done that, I'll take the extra time to justify the highs and lows.  While everyone would like to be on the high end of every evaluation - it just ain't so. And all folks just aren't average.  But, on the other hand when it is artifically done you might just as well mark everyone average.

I'll have to disagree with MMcF.  "There every day and on time" is what is expected or good performance.  When I see an evaluation form that has ATTENDANCE on it, there are only two options - Good and Poor!

[illegalsmile]

The company policy is the company policy.  It is senseless to debate something you have no control over, and which has no barring on your life.  It doesn't matter what YOU think about their policy.  It is what it is, get over it.

Can't really agree with you on this one, Mike. A lot of bad policies have fallen out of practice because of outcry. Not to say the eval policy is bad, or that our discussions among ourselves or with the office will change it, but bad policies don't change unless someone challenges them.

[remowil55]

In respoonse, Eric as soon as i am able i will get in touch with you, as far as the evals goes, How about this, i have done the nuke thing now for 16 years over 44 outages at 15 different plants, I have never shown up late for work and have missed 1 12 hour shift on Doctors orders and have never received anything better than good on the exit paper work, was told by site cord. that they have to explain any excellent and poor ratings to the office and plant. If i don't have and excellent record i would like to know what one is. Nothing ever gets corrected if its not brought up. those of you who know me, well you either like me or you dont, i don't really care if you don't I work hard and am proud of what i have done, i just think that 16 years of hard work should get you a little more respect than what has been given lately. I know the recuriters work hard, i don't know what there incentives are for staffing or not staffing an outage. But they should keep in mind that we the techs travel sometimes thousands of miles to get to these outages. I have been told in the last couple of weeks that i am commiting career sucide, for complaining, then so be it. i have also been told that this industry is 700 techs short, then i guess it will be 701 soon. Which by the way, this outage that i am at now, was NOT staffed fully. Remo

[SloGlo]

re:evals.  can we do the math here?  if yer at an outage with 35 techs, 'n one guy comes in late once a week, 1 guy is late three ours every 2 weeks, 'n one drags up after 3 days 'n goes to anudder job, what should go on the 32 peeples evals who showed up every day?  average.  duh.

[OldHP]

All I can say is ATTENDANCE (yes shout ) is either "good/acceptable" or "poor/unacceptable".  The individual who never misses a report time  at an "eval required" location or a "non er" location is noticed just as much at both, probably more at the non-eval site, (in either case, what is expected? - "that you be there to do the job").

Evaluation systems, programed/designed/copied, with "attendance" as a rating point, are a throwback (and still required by many federal programs) to the '50's/60's/70's when, "I'm at the hospital watching my child come into this world", was not an acceptable excuse for missing the start of the shift.

Attendance should (in this old man's view) be dealt with as a different issue (U/A) - on the rating/project eval it is part of overall performance.  In all actuality, it should be dealt with the first time the individual is late/no-show, which leads us back to "the evaluation is a useful tool for those managers and those sites that know how to use it".  For those that choose not to employ it properly, it is a yolk that they have to wear to stay where they are or get where they want to be.

[biloxoi blues]

Didnt know that kissin up to the Cordinator for a good eval would cause such a stir.  Would just like to say the people at Wolf Creek have been very nice to the contract staff here so far.  Hopefully we (the Bartlett people) can return the favor to them. If you ever want to get away from it all Burlington is the place to stay.   Very quiet, quiet, quiet , quiet place.  And if any important Bartlett people are reading this I would just like to say "I Bleed Bartlett Blue".   Now thats should help me get the next job.    Take care, gotta go,  I dont want to be late getting to work. 

[remowil55]

Re: the E-vals, if there not going to use them right then they should be done away with. Period. You never know when they may show up somewhere {like a court room } and come back to haunt you. I have never kissed any a** to get a job and not going to kiss any to keep one, i would go hungry and let my twin daughters starve {joke there Eric knows about } in South Carolina before i did. How come you never see any recruiters at any of the sites. Every now and again you see some kind of someone that suppose to be important show up and give a pep talk. But never the Big Man, or ?
Today i leave with a thought: "Then must you speak of someone that loved not wisely,but too well." Remo

[SloGlo]

dang!  remowil55, pardon me while i show my age.  i bin to sites where recruiters showed up (big blue in the early 90s), the big guy showed up; rsi (big eli in da 70s), hpts/gts (jimmy o in da 80s ), big blue (bruce in da 70s), yadda, yadda, yadda.  evals must exist if only to justify site coordinators 'n udder local management positions.  but the reel reesun is to input personnel data to the home office.  iffen yinze wants to git more pertinent data to the office, use dat puter to do more'n loaf on nukeworker 'n download por.... perntinent personal pleasure information.  send them yer version of your site attributes, accomplishments, 'n achievements.  butt, eye'd stay aweigh phrum weighing in on yer fellow techs 'n their negative downsides.  iffen ya gits my drift.

[Brett LaVigne]

I have been away from this business for a few years.  Now coming back I am astonished at the negativity that some techs display both on this site and at the current plant that I am working.  It is always the same...The one bitching the most is the one that spends all of his time in the breakroom just collecting a check.  I think it would do some good for some techs to get a normal job on the outside for about 6 months to get calibrated.

All of the complaining about what Bartlett does or doesn't is a bit tiring.  For 3+ grand/week if my lead tech wants me to clean a toilet I will only ask where the bruch is.

I tried everything to stay at home and make a living after I lost my non-nuke job a year and 1/2 ago.  The last was a delivery route through the winter in MI and the blazing summer that we just had in a van that has no air conditioning.  10 hours/day and I brought home around $400/week after expenses.  Changed my views a bit!

Thank you Bartlett, I appreciate my job!

[Rennhack]

This is the "Talk about the Company Named Bartlett Thread".

Everyone knows the rules, off topic message will be deleted.

[Mike McFarlin]

What's this I hear about Toshiba Electric or Taiwan Electric buying Big Blue?

[Already Gone]

Toshiba is buying Westinghouse from BNFL.  They're a much bigger "blue" than Bartlett.

[remowil55]

I have to agree with Mike McFarlin, and i will save my comments till after i get my check this week and see if it is correct, that should be Thursday night. Remo

[SloGlo]

Well I can only comment on the last few years about working for Bartlett when they took over the contract at my site.

1. They pay weekly
2. Never late with the paycheck
3. If I have had an issue with a paycheck the home office has fixed it/told me I'm wrong in a very timely manner

So from those 3 points I'm happy with working for Bartlett

RNN

remo.... reference rnn's post.

[OldHP]

It seem like this has turned into "Talk about Bartlett" while TAB is locked.  However, I'll throw in my 2 cents also.  When Bruce started the business, he didn't know a 'lick' about nukes, but he knew about how to treat people!  (Construction does that to you)!

Over the years (as the customer and just another field guy) I've seen a couple of times when the checks went to the wrong site, but, those were few and far between!  Even though it isn't BB in Plymouth, it is still his company and his baby.  And he still cares - what he did for Mitch is public, but what he has done for others - most will never know.

All I can say is if they aren't on his page, they won't be there long!  He is still the primary owner and chairman of the board!

[Fermione]

Chairman of the Board is correct but the percent Mr Bartlett still owns is not.  Mr Bartlett was previously a CPA.  He was the CPA for a little company in Athol MA called Starrett Tools.  Yes the people who make all those neat calibrated micrometers and things you need to get from M&TE.
Fermione

[Rennhack]

It seem like this has turned into "Talk about Bartlett" while TAB is locked.  However, I'll throw in my 2 cents also.  When Bruce started the business, he didn't know a 'lick' about nukes, but he knew about how to treat people!  (Construction does that to you)!

Over the years (as the customer and just another field guy) I've seen a couple of times when the checks went to the wrong site, but, those were few and far between!  Even though it isn't BB in Plymouth, it is still his company and his baby.  And he still cares - what he did for Mitch is public, but what he has done for others - most will never know.

All I can say is if they aren't on his page, they won't be there long!  He is still the primary owner and chairman of the board!

TAB isn't locked, and hasent been for 3 days.

[peteshonkwiler]

It seem like this has turned into "Talk about Bartlett" while TAB is locked.  However, I'll throw in my 2 cents also.  When Bruce started the business, he didn't know a 'lick' about nukes, but he knew about how to treat people! 

....but what he has done for others - most will never know.

I know what he has done for some, but not all and it's none of my business anyway.  What was of my business was when my son was born in Pittsburgh and I was working on the long term contract at Peachbottom, Bruce made certain that I was able to take a 30 day paternity leave without any negative repercussions.  This was in the early 80s, right after the law was passed, but the repercussive movement was still active.  Thankfully, I had none.  But I did have a very healthy boy, who is still a pride to his Dad.

[remowil55]

Hey it's Remo, i did check rnn's post SO WHAT!! My rating of Bartlett, would be low right about now. I will give my site Cord. a second attemp at solving this problem,before i say anything,then i will go up the chain of command.And then home. Remo

[SloGlo]

remo... i'm taking it yer check is wrong?

[let-it-ride]

Another Bartlett Lie?
The last class at INL were told by Bartlett that after their per diem was stopped after 60 days, they would get a 3% raise. No One got it. Why does Bartlett demand that you honor commitments, when they ignore them all the time? Perhaps if they are bought out maybe Honor and Honesty will be brought back and the name Bartlett will mean something once again.

[SloGlo]

bartlett is gitting bought? 

[Eric_Bartlett]

Another Bartlett Lie?
The last class at INL were told by Bartlett that after their per diem was stopped after 60 days, they would get a 3% raise. No One got it. Why does Bartlett demand that you honor commitments, when they ignore them all the time? Perhaps if they are bought out maybe Honor and Honesty will be brought back and the name Bartlett will mean something once again.

All of the Bartlett techs that were and are working on this individual contract that were on site prior to the diem change recieved a pay increase prior to the change in August '06 and then come October 1st y'all rec'd an additional increase - if for some reason you did not get either increase you should give either myself or Marie a shout so we can look into and rectify the situation, if it needs rectifying.  HELP US TO HELP YOU!