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« on: May 25, 2011, 09:52 »
Wish Nukeworker had Like buttons you can move this to whatever appropriate board you would like but I'm just saying There is alot of posts I would love to like ;)
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Re: Like button
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 07:16 »
We have Karma but only Gold members can use it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 10:24 »
At the top right corner of every page there is a share button , if you click on that, it will give you the option to share it with other folks.

I'll look into a like button, but before I do, please explain exactly what you mean, and how you think it would work.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 11:08 »
I think she means the LIKE button that Facebook has for posts or comments. Its a thumbs-up button that appears under posts and comments.

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 11:27 »
Site has been just fine for over a decade without one

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 11:48 »
It's harder than you think to do it (at least, to do it right).

First, I will have to upgrade the website to the beta version of our forum software. (That's the hard part).  Once I get it upgraded, I should be able to add the like button.  The time line would be a few weeks.

Bottom line, I'll do it.  But This summer is hectic, so I don't know when it will be finished.

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 05:01 »
Ill be "that guy" and say it. This is crap. Half the point of gold membership is the ability to give karma. If you make a "like" button you are effectively removing that priviledge.



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Re: Like button
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 05:32 »
Ill be "that guy" and say it. This is crap. Half the point of gold membership is the ability to give karma. If you make a "like" button you are effectively removing that priviledge.




I concur....

If you want to use a "like" button, become a gold member!
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 05:58 »
Ill be "that guy" and say it. This is crap. Half the point of gold membership is the ability to give karma. If you make a "like" button you are effectively removing that priviledge. 

I concur....
If you want to use a "like" button, become a gold member! 

I've got to go along with that!  This is not facebook or the 'Yahoo News'!
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 06:26 »
If there were a "like" button, I would have liked the previous 3 posts.  8)

That said, I think you are melding two ideas. Karma is a personal thing, "Like" or "thanking" is separate from that to recognize a good or helpful post. What I thought of when I read about this is androidforums.com where they have a "thanks" button on each post, and if people like the post or found it helpful, they could "thank" the poster by hitting the button.

For example, here is a post where many people "thanked" the poster.

http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/301064-must-have-apps-thunderbolt.html

I see a benefit of having both Karma, and "thanks" or "like." Like I said, we use Karma for something different than I see us using a "like" or "thanks."

Just my opinion.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 06:31 by TheHiggs »
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 06:45 »
I agree with you to an extent. you can "like" a post and not have it be anything personal behind, but you can do the same with karma as well, albeit thats not normally what happens. 

Its an area thats a shade of gray, and comes too close to comfort for a feature we pay for. the issue, the "like" feature is registered the same as karma is here. "this user has been liked XXX times". I guess the only real discernible difference is you cannot "dislike" a post, whereas here, you can :p


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Re: Like button
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 06:55 »
I agree with the "we pay for Karma" sentiment.

However, what I am saying is that I think the "like" and "karma" are two different things. Then again, I am not real sure. If it is tallied like Karma, then what is the point?

If it is tallied in just the "liked" post, like the example above, then I can see it being an added benefit. IE a noobie is reading a post that has been liked 20 times... it is probably good indication that it has good info in it. Karma doesn't really distinguish posts like that.

We will just have to see what Mike comes up with.

« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 06:55 by TheHiggs »
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 07:14 »
I agree with the "we pay for Karma" sentiment.

However, what I am saying is that I think the "like" and "karma" are two different things. Then again, I am not real sure. If it is tallied like Karma, then what is the point?

If it is tallied in just the "liked" post, like the example above, then I can see it being an added benefit. IE a noobie is reading a post that has been liked 20 times... it is probably good indication that it has good info in it. Karma doesn't really distinguish posts like that.

We will just have to see what Mike comes up with.




ohhhh I see now. Ok. From that standpoint that makes sense.  hed have to do a "top rated" post in each section though.


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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 08:48 »
Why don't you guys check out this trendy site called www.facebook.com and click the like button a few times or a thousand times.

Get it out of your system. You can even like everything in the Nukeworker.com group
Just don't like it twice or else you... well, you'll figure it out.

This is nukeworker.com where we have a karma system for this kind of thing.  

It reminds me of those instant polls on TV where people hit the green button when they like what they see and the red button for the opposite.

If this makes you happy or all giddy inside, you can hit the green button. If not, ignore it. If it offends you or is just plain stupid, hit the red button.

I like how this isn't facebook, because if I wanted facebook.... I'd go to facebook.

(It's also not eHarmony haha)

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« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 09:24 by Drayer »

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Re: Like button
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 09:11 »
Too bad he said he'll do It. Now all those words I don't read seem like a waste.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2011, 09:25 »
Ill be "that guy" and say it. This is crap. Half the point of gold membership is the ability to give karma. If you make a "like" button you are effectively removing that priviledge.



The other half is PolySci....

the first thing I am going to do is not like this thread....
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 09:26 by Drayer »

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2011, 09:39 »
I've got to go along with that!  This is not facebook or the 'Yahoo News'!

Actually, I visit Yahoo News often, and one of the things I like about it is that you can + or - each post (and I do! ;). "Like" by itself isn't nearly as effective a social feedback tool as a + or - system

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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2011, 10:35 »
If you really look close, the OP was asking for more than just a 'like' button!  She was asking for a 'like' and ability to transfer "much like Yahoo News" to her other "social networking sites", as in, look what Justin, Hydro, or CM, etc., just said to (or about) me!
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 10:45 »
If you really look close, the OP was asking for more than just a 'like' button!  She was asking for a 'like' and ability to transfer "much like Yahoo News" to her other "social networking sites", as in, look what Justin, Hydro, or CM, etc., just said to (or about) me!

Hence the allergic reaction! ;)

Just as long as we don't allow Twitter-bating to get posted INto Nukeworker, such as when you read a new article online, and the comment section is full of idiots posting the very topic of the article back into the article. Or those stupid Myspace Mafia families, or sleazy IMVU/Evony ads (although, if we patched Nukeworker into SecondLife, maybe some of Charlie's wild alternate reality theories on reactor operations could work! That's it, we'll set up our own SecondLife electric utility, and bill users based on virtual energy demand....hmmm, thic could work.....  :P
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 10:53 by HydroDave63 »

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2011, 11:17 »
derek go read justins explanation. It makes sense from that aspect. Our karma system is based on how we like an idividuals response or how we feel about them a particular day. The "like" system will allow users to search for top rated posts on a given subject vs an individuals karma. As long as it doesnt become a rating system, it doesnt infringe on gold member privledges (how the hell do you spell that word lol)... Its ok in that aspect.

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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2011, 11:37 »
However, what I am saying is that I think the "like" and "karma" are two different things. Then again, I am not real sure..  

Hence the allergic reaction! ;)

 :->  RAPBR:  I really think the OP is a tweet/twitter, facebook, etc. type that has just joined another 'network' for the sake of being "in" and wants the same options as other 'social networking" sites provide!  JMO   :trollbash:

Just look at the OP stats!   [dowave]
« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 11:43 by OldHP »
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2011, 12:14 »
Wow, this thread is on fire.

If I implemented it, it would be with this mod:

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2543

And look like this:





« Last Edit: May 29, 2011, 12:21 by Rennhack »

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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2011, 12:18 »
Wow, this thread is on fire.

If I implemented it, it would be with this mod:

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2543



Oh definitely not then. As drayer said, this isnt facebook...

BUT I digress, its your site, you do what you feel will better the site.

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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2011, 12:22 »
Oh definitely not then. As drayer said, this isnt facebook...

BUT I digress, its your site, you do what you feel will better the site.

It might be an interesting experiment.

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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2011, 12:25 »
Any way to do it with plus and minus or some sort of negative feedback tally?

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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2011, 01:01 »
We could always go with this one, which just gives posts star ratings based on how people rate it, kinda like how you rate the pictures in our photo gallery:

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1313


« Last Edit: May 29, 2011, 01:09 by Rennhack »

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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2011, 01:02 »
Yeah, that isn't what I was hoping for. But hey... I am not emotional about it like some. Also, we are limited by what the SMF people come up with for mods.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2011, 01:10 »
Well, I've offered two very different options.  You can't please all the people all the time.

Additionally, there isn't a reason we couldn't do BOTH if that pleased the most people.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2011, 01:14 »
Sorry I mean the "like to facebook" thing. There others are fine.
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2011, 06:17 »
We could always go with this one, which just gives posts star ratings based on how people rate it, kinda like how you rate the pictures in our photo gallery:

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1313




I'm in favor of that proposal :)

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« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2011, 11:25 »
I'm in favor of that proposal :)
its only good if you can arrange the forum to display high to low :)




Oh yeah, with 5 stars it will inevitably become like the youtube rating system. Everyone would put 5 stars or 1 star. Effectively "Like" or "dislike". Id bet that would happen here.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2011, 11:28 by Charlie Murphy »

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Re: Like button
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2011, 08:24 »
With all due respect to everyone that has posted prior to this, could we have an " I don't give a D@#n" post?  Speaking strickly for myself, often times I just don't give a d@#n about the question / issue at hand.  Perhaps such an option could help channel the whole thing to a better area of the site to be addressed?
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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2011, 08:32 »
With all due respect to everyone that has posted prior to this, could we have an " I don't give a D@#n" post?  Speaking strickly for myself, often times I just don't give a d@#n about the question / issue at hand.  Perhaps such an option could help channel the whole thing to a better area of the site to be addressed?

If we had that, I'd use it here. :P
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2011, 11:26 »
Not that it matters,but I think the whole idea just seems to degrade the site to a less professional level.

Just another worthless opinion.
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2011, 11:39 »
Not that it matters, but I think the whole idea just seems to degrade the site to a less professional level.
Just another worthless opinion. 

Becomes another 'Tweet', 'Twitter', 'Facebook', etc. for the kids to grab onto!  Where they can "communicate" with professional people!
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2011, 12:09 »
With all due respect to everyone that has posted prior to this, could we have an " I don't give a D@#n" post?  Speaking strickly for myself, often times I just don't give a d@#n about the question / issue at hand.  Perhaps such an option could help channel the whole thing to a better area of the site to be addressed?

In the next version of the software, you will have the ability to ignore stuff.

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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2011, 12:09 »
Less professional how, exactly? Many professionals use those devices for networking and other business these days.

It is the 21st century. We should try not to be Luddites, IMO.
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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2011, 11:49 »
I am no Luddite,  I have been knee deep in technology all my adult life.  To me all the 'Hey look at me' crap associated with the social networking sites is childish and self-centered. It is my opinion only. It may change at some point in the future, but I sincerely doubt it.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2011, 04:28 »
I am no Luddite,  I have been knee deep in technology all my adult life.  To me all the 'Hey look at me' crap associated with the social networking sites is childish and self-centered. It is my opinion only. It may change at some point in the future, but I sincerely doubt it.

Funny... I actually agree. I think the Karma is enough... Don't much care one way or another if my posts are liked or disliked... That's not why I post, obviously.
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« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2011, 07:20 »
Funny... I actually agree. I think the Karma is enough... Don't much care one way or another if my posts are liked or disliked... That's not why I post, obviously.

Option #2 isn't meant to tell you if some one liked your post, its to tell others that the post was helpful or not.

Kinda like the product ratings on Amazon, you would look at the 4 and 5 star products before the 1 and 2 star products.

And option 1 is more of a viral marketing thing, its to attract new people to the site, it also isn't meant to tell you that people like you.
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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2011, 07:32 »
"the times... they are a-changin..."

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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2011, 07:43 »
This may help to break up the good ol' boys club that permeates the site.

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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2011, 08:07 »
This may help to break up the good ol' boys club that permeates the site.

oh you mean the people that have been here for 5 years + who have developed a comraderie together, who have shared good and bad times, who develop each other personally and professionally?

Yeah I can see how thats a bad thing :p


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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2011, 10:18 »
This may help to break up the good ol' boys club that permeates the site. 

Oh!  And you've been here for less than 2 months and you think it is a good ol' boys club?
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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2011, 10:37 »
Oh!  And you've been here for less than 2 months and you think it is a good ol' boys club?

nah, hes been here for a while. he had a bunch of negative karma, so he started over. I mean, clearly once you hit negative karma you can never go back, right? :p

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« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2011, 11:21 »
My all-important karma ratio was somewhere near 2 or 3 to 1 when I originally took a break, but thanks to you CM for another baseless post.

I failed my "add value" mantra in the previous post, so here's that:  I can't wait for the option to ignore specific persons/trolls/clowns/etc.

Other forums have successfully utilized the "like" feature and I'm sure it could work here as well.  However, there may be too many options (similar to all those icons) and NW may be reaching that saturation/threshold.  Then again, getting rid of the karma program could do interesting things, but I realize that would take memberships and $$$ away from Mike and co. so I understand why it remains.

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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2011, 08:37 »
Then again, getting rid of the karma program could do interesting things,

That was tried not too long ago....
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