Harrisburgh

TVA · May 15, 2019, 08:34

At least a year probably the design and purchase agreement isnt an issue.

Receiving the fuel post fabrication 4 to 5 months

Inspection about 4 months.

For the right money it can all be pushed but 4 months maximum.

peteshonkwiler · May 15, 2019, 09:55

With an October 2019 (I think) outage, then there is still the minimum time, i.e. "For the right money it can all be pushed but 4 months maximum"?
After all, half of May, all of June, July, August, and September.

TVA · May 15, 2019, 11:15

No. Thats assuming you already have the fuel ordered. No one would have ordered it without at least some sort of assurance they werent wasting millions of dollars.

peteshonkwiler · May 16, 2019, 07:37

Ar what point would they have decided to not order the fuel?
Did I miss a post which would indicate Excelon Generation was not proceeding in good faith regarding TMI continuing gendration?

fiveeleven · May 16, 2019, 09:15

Let it go man - its over.

scotoma · May 16, 2019, 09:32

I may be wrong, but I believe that the fossil fuel lobby is much stronger than nuclear in PA. PA doesn't have any prime ocean front property, so maybe they don't believe that they will be impacted by rising sea levels. Unfortunately there are many more consequences to global warming. Temperature is the measure of internal energy in matter. Warmer air and warmer water means more energy. What is the mass of the air ans water that is affected, and how much more energy is stored therein?

Marlin · May 16, 2019, 11:08

Quote from: scotoma on May 16, 2019, 09:32
I may be wrong, but I believe that the fossil fuel lobby is much stronger than nuclear in PA. PA doesn't have any prime ocean front property, so maybe they don't believe that they will be impacted by rising sea levels. Unfortunately there are many more consequences to global warming. Temperature is the measure of internal energy in matter. Warmer air and warmer water means more energy. What is the mass of the air ans water that is affected, and how much more energy is stored therein?

I will not enter into a discussion on Anthrogogenic Global Warming (AGW) in open forum but if you were a gold member you would know much I disagree with the "consensus" and the chicken little alarmist view. As much as I do not buy into the myopic view that CO2 is the nexus of evil for AGW there are many other reasons to move to a cleaner more effluent contained power. Recently one of the streams flowing through Pigeon Forge from the Great Smoky Mountains was issued a fishing warning to limit the amount of fish you should eat due to mercury. No industry in the Smoky Mountains the source like the build up of mercury in the oceans is fossil fuels (coal). If "environmentalists" are born again nuclear advocates due to CO2, so be it, but a broader view of overall environmental impact is the reason we should be extending older plant life's and pursuing newer nuclear technologies.

TVA · May 16, 2019, 11:18

Exelon had zero to do with it. Would you spend 15 million on something that you had no idea you could use?

scotoma · May 16, 2019, 01:56

The sky is not falling, the ocean is rising.

Marlin · May 16, 2019, 02:10

Quote from: scotoma on May 16, 2019, 01:56
The sky is not falling, the ocean is rising.

...and has been for a very long time before the industrial revolution, nothing new the next ice age will fix that.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/rising_seas_are_nothing_new.html

GLW · May 16, 2019, 02:52

Quote from: scotoma on May 16, 2019, 01:56
The sky is not falling, the ocean is rising.

well, depending on where you live the land is sinking, aka subduction, and it's not anthropogenic (which is a trope as regards climate offset)

Ksheed · May 17, 2019, 11:01

I'd say it's time to return to topic, transfer to Poli-Sci, or let the thread die....

GLW · May 18, 2019, 01:05

Quote from: ksheed12 on May 17, 2019, 11:01
I'd say it's time to return to topic, transfer to Poli-Sci, or let the thread die....

Marlin · May 18, 2019, 01:37

Quote from: GLW on May 18, 2019, 01:05

Maybe but he is right.

Marlin · May 18, 2019, 02:52

Quote from: Marlin on May 05, 2019, 11:04
NUCLEAR POWERS PENNSYLVANIA

https://www.nuclearpowerspennsylvania.com/

https://p2a.co/VLG0OI7%20

Bump

peteshonkwiler · May 19, 2019, 08:22

Quote from: Marlin on May 18, 2019, 02:52
Bump

FYI, this url gives me the wrong State Senator. Check the legislators you are given.

peteshonkwiler · May 19, 2019, 08:24

Quote from: ksheed12 on May 17, 2019, 11:01
I'd say it's time to return to topic, transfer to Poli-Sci, or let the thread die....

Do not transfer to PoliSci.
That takes it out of the public venue. This is the type of information which needs public dissemination.

Marlin · May 19, 2019, 12:07

Quote from: peteshonkwiler on May 19, 2019, 08:24
Do not transfer to PoliSci.
That takes it out of the public venue. This is the type of information which needs public dissemination.

Not exactly sure what you mean. If it is the nuclear side of this thread no it does not belong in PolySCi but the ~~Global Warming~~ Climate Change for the most part does. I suppose you could argue that it does as CO2 and Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) are at the heart of the debate for continuation of nuclear power but in my view as AGW is a contentious topic that evokes responses that belong in a forum that has less restrictive rules to promote debate.

"That's just my opinion I could be wrong." Denis Miller

TVA · May 19, 2019, 03:02

Love it when non admins want to admin

peteshonkwiler · May 19, 2019, 07:25

Quote from: Marlin on May 19, 2019, 12:07
Not exactly sure what you mean. If it is the nuclear side of this thread no it does not belong in PolySCi but the ~~Global Warming~~ Climate Change for the most part does. I suppose you could argue that it does as CO2 and Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) are at the heart of the debate for continuation of nuclear power but in my view as AGW is a contentious topic that evokes responses that belong in a forum that has less restrictive rules to promote debate.

"That's just my opinion I could be wrong." Denis Miller

I mean that when it goes PoliSci, it disappears from public view and comment. People looking for information that check out Nukeworker.com will not see it, the governmental contacts, nor the conversation. I think this would be important for the nuke workers to put forth for the most favorable public image and action.

"That's just my opinion I could be wrong." Denis Miller

DM is one of my favorite sages, and is from the Pittsburgh area where I grew up and live.

Ksheed · May 20, 2019, 09:35

Agreed, so let's stick to the original intent and not dive off the cliff into the "Global Warming, Climate Change, Fake Science, CO2's the Devil" abyss.

FYI, SpongeBob is my favorite Hall Monitor. The wife and I still joke about that episode whenever we see someone directing traffic.

peteshonkwiler · Jun 01, 2019, 09:08

Send this link to all your State Representatives, Senators, and the Govenor to keep the last six units on line.
https://dailyenergyinsider.com/news/19647-new-international-energy-agency-report-highlights-impacts-of-decline-in-use-of-nuclear-power/

TVA · Jun 01, 2019, 04:38

Quote from: peteshonkwiler on Jun 01, 2019, 09:08
Send this link to all your State Representatives, Senators, and the Govenor to keep the last six units on line.
https://dailyenergyinsider.com/news/19647-new-international-energy-agency-report-highlights-impacts-of-decline-in-use-of-nuclear-power/

Last 6 units?

peteshonkwiler · Jun 01, 2019, 10:16

Quote from: TVA on Jun 01, 2019, 04:38

Last 6 units?

My error. Last 8. Maybe I'm trying to desensitize myself as I am perceiving a lack of interest in maintaing the Commonwealth's nuclear power plants

TVA · Jun 02, 2019, 09:52

If the grid and prices support it they should die.

8 plants?