Are pay rates slowly dropping?

[BetaAnt]

Chicago Union Laborer 20 yrs - $42/ hr w/ benefits.

If you don't make nuclear welds, there is no bi-annual certification. Construction welders don't have the same requirements as nuclear.

[Ksheed]

Chicago Union Laborer 20 yrs - $42/ hr w/ benefits.

If you don't make nuclear welds, there is no bi-annual certification. Construction welders don't have the same requirements as nuclear.

If they are making welds covered by ASME, yes they do. Whether the welders are working jobs commercial, industrial, or nuclear. All have to test to be qualified and if they don't utilize the process within 6 months they have to recertify. The nuclear industry didn't create the 6 month rule. It is controlled by ASME. Additionally the same rule applies to structural welding covered under AWS D1.1 (bridges, buildings, etc.).

[GLW]

Chicago Union Laborer 20 yrs - $42/ hr w/ benefits.
If you don't make nuclear welds, there is no bi-annual certification. Construction welders don't have the same requirements as nuclear.

If they are making welds covered by ASME, yes they do. Whether the welders are working jobs commercial, industrial, or nuclear. All have to test to be qualified and if they don't utilize the process within 6 months they have to recertify. The nuclear industry didn't create the 6 month rule. It is controlled by ASME. Additionally the same rule applies to structural welding covered under AWS D1.1 (bridges, buildings, etc.).

recertify every nine years

certification maintenance every six months

endorsements get complicated

after that, well, I'm no certified welder, but I did sleep at the Holiday Inn within the last 9 years and the last 6 months, and I highly endorse them

[atomicarcheologist]

Does any of the readers of this thread have an elegant equation to show the decline of the HP technician pay rate declination over the years since the wage became stagnant, using the COL as the variable?

[GLW]

Does any of the readers of this thread have an elegant equation to show the decline of the HP technician pay rate declination over the years since the wage became stagnant, using the COL as the variable?

it's called a depression curve,...

it's buried somewhere in my other 2TB of odd knowledge gleaned over 28 years of working with PCs,...

you do not really want to see it,...

[Chimera]

Does any of the readers of this thread have an elegant equation to show the decline of the HP technician pay rate declination over the years since the wage became stagnant, using the COL as the variable?

Wouldn't a graph of the decline of the pay rate declination look like a positive curve?

[SloGlo]

Does any of the readers of this thread have an elegant equation to show the decline of the HP technician pay rate declination over the years since the wage became stagnant, using the COL as the variable?

aye ain't elegant, butt fingered out an equation four yins. eye yam thinking that using an inflation rate wood bee moor simple than the complexities of the c.o.l. fore formula construction.

a=a(original)x(1-inflation rate as decimal)e t

ware:
a is the amount of hourly pay
a(original) is the amount of hourly pay at the start of time frame
e indicates exponent
t is time in years of the time frame

[Rennhack]

Or you could just use this:

http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=28&year1=2008&year2=2016

$28/hr in 2008 is equal to $30.84 now.  So... you would need a raise of about 10% over 8 years.  Inflation has not changed much in that time.

[SloGlo]

Or you could just use this:

http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=28&year1=2008&year2=2016

knot the same fun factor....

$28/hr in 2008 is equal to $30.84 now.  So... you would need a raise of about 10% over 8 years.  Inflation has not changed much in that time.

pay gone up 10% inn those ate years?

[Rennhack]

pay gone up 10% inn those ate years?

Depends, if you are at a Utility for a contractor, or not.  Utility Contractors... probably no.  Anything else, probably so.

I know most of the DOE sites pay better than that.

[atomicarcheologist]

aye ain't elegant, butt fingered out an equation four yins. eye yam thinking that using an inflation rate wood bee moor simple than the complexities of the c.o.l. fore formula construction.

a=a(original)x(1-inflation rate as decimal)e t

ware:
a is the amount of hourly pay
a(original) is the amount of hourly pay at the start of time frame
e indicates exponent
t is time in years of the time frame

You are correct, the elegance isn't there. However the operation is so I'll take what is offered. The old AsubO formula? Nice approach for this forum. I was hoping for something with COL, maybe CPI variables incorporated, but this works fine.

[SloGlo]

$28/hr in 2008 is equal to $30.84 now.  So... you would need a raise of about 10% over 8 years.  Inflation has not changed much in that time.

like 1.1% a year, less than the low inflation rates in the last ate. looking at the last  fifteen will curl yore hare.

[GLW]

like 1.1% a year, less than the low inflation rates in the last ate. looking at the last  fifteen will curl yore hare.

no surprises;

the number of commercial nukes are dwindling,...

highly experienced personnel stay in the workforce longer,...

the USN still pumps better than 1000 new bodies into the pool every year,...

the "stimulus spawn" was another fire hose dumping of bodies into the pool,...

there is that bow wave of retirements coming up, but you're in it,...

[SloGlo]

no surprises;


there is that bow wave of retirements coming up, but you're in it,...

surfing that wave. bee nice two no theirs enough mass behind two ensure vector maintenance.

[Rerun]

Chicago Union Laborer 20 yrs - $42/ hr w/ benefits.

If you don't make nuclear welds, there is no bi-annual certification. Construction welders don't have the same requirements as nuclear.

Incorrect