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Offline turkeypoint1967

The Hanford Saga
« on: Aug 22, 2012, 04:54 »
More layoffs coming, more techs called back, and more people who were fired getting their spots back.  Where does it all end? 8)

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22, 2012, 05:38 »
End? there is no end.-------Watchmen
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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #2 on: Aug 22, 2012, 09:25 »
Washington Closure declines to renew for fy13 with Eberline Services RCT and Industrial Hygiene they will self perform.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #3 on: Aug 22, 2012, 11:16 »
Will the Eberline techs be absorbed by WCH or is time to hit the road? And idea?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #4 on: Aug 22, 2012, 11:20 »
Any ideas on how the clump of waste found between the inner and outer shell of AY-102 could affect the site's future? I can't believe it's a good day there on the Lazy H if the double shells are found to be leaking - even if its just the inner shell

.http://phys.org/news/2012-08-leak-safety-hanford-nuclear-site.html

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #5 on: Aug 23, 2012, 06:19 »
Will the Eberline techs be absorbed by WCH or is time to hit the road? And idea?

Almost a given, techs will roll to WCH due to site wide seniority.

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Offline turkeypoint1967

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #6 on: Sep 25, 2012, 01:08 »
Wow.  After some of the goings on with the layoffs etc the last couple of days, I have concluded that this is the most corrupt and cowardly union I have ever been a part of.  Good luck to those being let go.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #7 on: Sep 26, 2012, 11:59 »
Wow.  After some of the goings on with the layoffs etc the last couple of days, I have concluded that this is the most corrupt and cowardly union I have ever been a part of.  Good luck to those being let go.
Can you be more specific, turkeypoint?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #8 on: Sep 27, 2012, 01:08 »
This forum is not really the place to go into detail, but all of us should pay close attention to what our "union" is allowing to happen. 

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #9 on: Sep 27, 2012, 02:48 »
This forum is not really the place to go into detail, but all of us should pay close attention to what our "union" is allowing to happen. 

Especially if it involves names or libel or slander.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #10 on: Sep 29, 2012, 01:52 »
Especially if it involves names or libel or slander.

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We are working under the principle that a statement is not libelous or slanderous if the statement is true, aren’t we?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #11 on: Sep 29, 2012, 10:35 »
We are working under the principle that a statement is not libelous or slanderous if the statement is true, aren’t we?

That would be true but the site still has a "No names" rule and rule #4.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #12 on: Oct 02, 2012, 10:20 »
Just left Hanford one ago after 28 years. Got left holding the bag at PFP after the great exodus to the tank farms. Best thing that ever happened to leave and return to commercial nuke. Good luck with all the drama! :)

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #13 on: Oct 02, 2012, 09:10 »
Just left Hanford one ago after 28 years. Got left holding the bag at PFP after the great exodus to the tank farms. Best thing that ever happened to leave and return to commercial nuke. Good luck with all the drama! :)

Spent 16 months at Hanford and would rather be there then at commercial sites. Did not see any drama at all. I would go back to Hanford anytime, I meet some great techs and ever better people.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #14 on: Oct 08, 2012, 03:30 »
Just left Hanford one ago after 28 years. Got left holding the bag at PFP after the great exodus to the tank farms. Best thing that ever happened to leave and return to commercial nuke. Good luck with all the drama! :)


Hope all is well in SC ...Say Hi to Mila :-)

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #15 on: Oct 09, 2012, 02:38 »
She says hi, will be returning soon...........

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #16 on: Oct 09, 2012, 03:24 »
She says hi, will be returning soon...........

bet she hates that ! :-) But her cube awaits :-)
« Last Edit: Oct 09, 2012, 03:25 by 105KW »

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #17 on: Oct 12, 2012, 11:20 »
Ha funny pay your dues to the IBEW.
they will stand up for you no worrys.
when I was there I was with the OCAW .
Hanford will be around for year to come it is a place that will never be cleaned up .
PFP that was know as 234-5 Z plant , redox  T plant , B Plant and U plant, we even stored navel used fuel in T plant. buried Surrys steam Gennys in east area. plus 21 navy reactors . I never had the pleasure of working at Purex. spent 6 years in tanks farms and ran the 242s.  Helped start the core drill machines for the tank farms so they could track what was in the waste in the tank farms.
some of the best operators I worked with are still there. when the Vit plant comes on line that will be something it was being planned when I left in 87.
it is funny I took mt father down to what is now HEHF to get his medical records they show history of him being treated from 1960 to 1985 when he retired in 87 he was taken to a room and briefed on a uptake they been tracking since 1966 in red on the bottom it stated worker was never informed. 420 rem to his lungs embeded PU238 and 239 decaying to AM241. 
I worked with the men who pull the atomic man out of the room in 1976 . and I was with thecrew that sealed the room when it was decided they could never recover the room it was painted white and sealed.
oh and Purex has a room called the white room . it was the way to contain the problem.
I worked b plant when it was shut down and we were all moved to other areas to work in the end tanks farms sent out the field every day in the box trucks and just hung out do to lack of work,
at one point the guards dropped a M16 out its chopper into the west area trench.
there was some interesting things that went on during the time when the plants were running.
to all of you still out the cheers and go by the dugout and help my friend get his retirement plan built up.

Offline turkeypoint1967

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #18 on: Oct 18, 2012, 10:49 »
I have seen very little out of our "union" that would qualify as standing up for you.  Unless of course you dont show up, fail drug tests, etc.  After seeing other unions in action, this is a poor excuse.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #19 on: Dec 04, 2012, 11:28 »
Does anyone really think a strike is a possibility?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #20 on: Dec 04, 2012, 04:24 »
Does anyone really think a strike is a possibility?



I sure hope so. This will be the closest we have come in the 20 years I have been here.  I really don't think we have a option.  It only a 3 year contract...Can you imagine what it the next contract will be like  if we allow this to take hold ?  I am not to far from retirement, the ones that REALLY should be concerned are the folks with 5 to 10 years in.   I REALLY Hope HAMTC displays some leadership and doesn't cave.  I really think this will the defining contract for the workers on the Hanford site.  If We lose this one we are all done. The young people will never be able to recover.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #21 on: Dec 05, 2012, 12:12 »
There will be no strike.  Who will make the 300K mortgage, car paymt x 2, child support, boat paymt? etc, etc. etc

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #22 on: Dec 05, 2012, 11:22 »
There will be no strike.  Who will make the 300K mortgage, car paymt x 2, child support, boat paymt? etc, etc. etc

I don't know any bargining unit that has  a 300k loan payment....maybe you do. l simply can't take a 3 year contract with over 200 dollars a week in pay cuts, freezing of my pension, removal of double time,  no health care representation,  no seniority, no continuty of service, no raise from 2012 through 2015, manadatory overtime, no lamp rights,  no safety committee, no limits on temp workers,  and the list goes on..I don't think the future workers ( or current workers ) can afford not to strike under those conditions

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #23 on: Dec 06, 2012, 04:48 »
http://m.tri-cityherald.com/tricity/db_97925/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=tiCnI56w

Wow big changes coming for Hanford. This should be interesting. I guess HAMTEC is
not as strong as everyone thought.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #24 on: Dec 06, 2012, 08:06 »
They suffer from a lack of leadership and seem to be in bed with the companies.  It will be interesting to see how they play this one.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #25 on: Dec 13, 2012, 06:56 »
Since SRS is hiring contractors to fill positions on a long term basis should we believe that Hanford will be going this way once the contract negotiation is complete?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #26 on: Dec 14, 2012, 03:29 »
That's the way it started with Rocky Flats.
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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #27 on: Feb 04, 2013, 09:59 »
Sounds like hanford employees are about to get a dose of reallity.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #28 on: Feb 04, 2013, 10:19 »
http://m.tri-cityherald.com/tricity/db_97925/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=tiCnI56w

Wow big changes coming for Hanford. This should be interesting. I guess HAMTEC is
not as strong as everyone thought.

As the link is dead the proper acronym is HAMTC (Hanford Atomic Metal Trades Council) for anyone trying to perform a media search and inform themselves,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #29 on: Mar 28, 2013, 12:17 »
Today is the day. Will I see Hanford again in another 6 months or so??


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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #30 on: Jul 30, 2013, 02:20 »
I and a few others have made our return as temps, though this time they are telling us we will only be here until 9/30. We shall see...

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #31 on: Jul 31, 2013, 02:46 »
 Someone will be working to clean up Hanford for a longtime to come. IF CH gets it way on demoing PFP the area east of it to the river will be a wasteland. The local union for HPs is mm how to put this- if your liked they help, if your not your screwed. Worked there a long time and had problems due to family issues. The 2 union stewards I worked with before quitting throw me under the bus. Its really bad when your talking to your president and he cant remember your name 5 Min's into a conversation.
 Good people there. Management has gone to far toward Rocky Flats thinking.  CH pay off Gov fine so the supervisors and managers that let the time card stuff go on are now out of the GAO line of fire. Now there going after site workers that got stuck calling out over time and taking them to court for the stupidity of others.
 In the near future a big section of the work force is going to get reality gut punch and they refuse to see it coming. Kinda hard to pay a NCO 40$/hr to hang Rad rope and pick up trash, when a laborer can do it a 20/hr.

Offline turkeypoint1967

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #32 on: Aug 02, 2013, 09:51 »
Hope fully they, (the company and the "union") dont hose you over like they did the last group of temps.  Despite the contract saying they were only allowed to work 720 hours as temps, many of them were here well over a year.  When the issue was brought to the attention of the "union", they were told tough, the union signed off on it, thus they lost their seniority etc.  Pretty shady.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #33 on: Aug 08, 2013, 10:36 »
Hope fully they, (the company and the "union") dont hose you over like they did the last group of temps.  Despite the contract saying they were only allowed to work 720 hours as temps, many of them were here well over a year.  When the issue was brought to the attention of the "union", they were told tough, the union signed off on it, thus they lost their seniority etc.  Pretty shady.

 The whole mess at hanford is in flux right now. With over a 98 % turn down on the last vote I am not real sure where this is headed. I do know I have heard more talk of voting for a strike then I have heard in decades out here.  A lot of folks aren't happy with their locals or with Hamtc or the xxxxx xxxx companies.   The Union "swears" they will not allow the temps to go over their 720 this time...we shall see.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #34 on: Aug 08, 2013, 04:38 »
Have all the temps lost their seniority?  What will happen now when they hit their 720 hours?  I have seen a lot of job postings for exempt positions lately. Any rumors on when/if they will be staffing non-exempt?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #35 on: Aug 09, 2013, 11:03 »
Have all the temps lost their seniority?  What will happen now when they hit their 720 hours?  I have seen a lot of job postings for exempt positions lately. Any rumors on when/if they will be staffing non-exempt?

 The temps that we have now all have a 2009 seniority date on the list.  I suspect ( but don't know ) that local 984 will NOT grant an extension above the 720 hours after the last firestorm of criticism it received last time.. The leaky tank issue has been creating some talk of new hires, recalls, and absorption at WRPS.  I do know that some folks have approached HR about possible VROF offers at the end of the year and was told no VROF was being considered and actually they were looking to hire in the future months. Remember this is Hanford for what I hear today is a lie tomorrow.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #36 on: Aug 15, 2013, 06:03 »
What are the sticking points on the contract? With that high a rejection rate there must be some pretty big changes in the proposed agreement.

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« Reply #37 on: Aug 19, 2013, 10:58 »
What are the sticking points on the contract? With that high a rejection rate there must be some pretty big changes in the proposed agreement.

Aah..you name it it's there.  Not one single article is an advancement for the workers. We all understand that a good contract requires give and take, but to lose in every article is unacceptable. Main points for a lot of folks are :

1.   Severe reduction  or cancellation in pensions. Everyone will lose, but unless you have at least 15 years AND are 50 the reductions are just unworkable. Some guys are here with 30 years but won't be 50 and will lose 20 percent or more of their pensions.

2. Forced Overtime.  Getting folks to work overtime has never been a problem, but now the companies want use the threat of forcing you to stay as a weapon to get more concessions.

3. Removal of double time

4. Removal of ECI pay.

5. Ability to put you on any shift they deem appropriate at any time with little notice

6. Huge increases in Medical

7. Cut 5 % of base pay for tank farm workers.

8. Want the workers working in the most hazardous chemical areas to pay for the own Short term disability or go with out.

9. No raises for 2012. Offered 1.5  % for 2014


And the list goes on and on..It is apparent the companies are wanting to force an impasse and go for implementation.


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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #38 on: Aug 21, 2013, 12:00 »
Aah..you name it it's there.  Not one single article is an advancement for the workers. We all understand that a good contract requires give and take, but to lose in every article is unacceptable. Main points for a lot of folks are :
1.   Severe reduction  or cancellation in pensions. Everyone will lose, but unless you have at least 15 years AND are 50 the reductions are just unworkable. Some guys are here with 30 years but won't be 50 and will lose 20 percent or more of their pensions.
2. Forced Overtime.  Getting folks to work overtime has never been a problem, but now the companies want use the threat of forcing you to stay as a weapon to get more concessions.
3. Removal of double time
4. Removal of ECI pay.
5. Ability to put you on any shift they deem appropriate at any time with little notice
6. Huge increases in Medical
7. Cut 5 % of base pay for tank farm workers.
8. Want the workers working in the most hazardous chemical areas to pay for the own Short term disability or go with out.
9. No raises for 2012. Offered 1.5  % for 2014
And the list goes on and on..It is apparent the companies are wanting to force an impasse and go for implementation.

Wow... your nightmare contract is better than any contract I have ever had.  And to think of all those unemployed people ready to take your job for even less.  I wouldn't worry about the 3,906 Radiological (HP) Technician's who have there resume on NukeWorker looking for a nice job just like yours.  I'm sure they would never settle for such a terrible contract.

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« Reply #39 on: Aug 21, 2013, 01:05 »
That seems to be the mindset at Hanford.  Alot of the "workers" out here forget that the only reason they arent stocking shelves at Walmart is becausethe union is in control.  They had better hope the union never goes away. 

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« Reply #40 on: Aug 21, 2013, 09:12 »
 Your more than welcome to come here and work. But given that some of the folks have spent their entire working lives in the chemical and rad zones of Hanford I don't think most of us are willing to give up 60 years of bargaining in one swoop of the pen.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #41 on: Aug 21, 2013, 05:11 »
I appreciated the Hanford union when I was a contractor there.  I liked getting the same hourly pay as the house techs. Double time was nice, too.

It would be nice to get the same treatment when working "union" powerplants.

I dont get the people on this site bashing other people for having a better deal than they do.  And I doubt any of the HP s at Hanford would be stocking shelves at WalMart without the union.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #42 on: Aug 21, 2013, 11:27 »
You must not know some of the ones I work with.

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« Reply #43 on: Nov 02, 2013, 11:55 »
Awfully quiet in here lately, anyone know what the latest status is after the big Government shutdown scare? Lots of news articles about leaky tank, drums knocked off trucks and dropped rolloff containers. Is there any good news?

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #44 on: Apr 10, 2014, 07:26 »
Everyone loosen up your toe-thumbs, the raider nation is about to show PFP what Radcon is all about!

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« Reply #45 on: Oct 29, 2014, 04:44 »
I'm back in the saddle again! (Have been for almost 6 months now) After being a 'temp' right up to the 720 hour limit last year, I'm back for my 3rd "permanent" gig. PFP is a Pretty Fun Place to work, with some nice people and unique challenges. All the press that Tank Farms gets these days, I'm kind of glad I'm over here.

http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/investigations/2014/10/28/hanford-vapors-report/18042229/

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #46 on: Mar 03, 2015, 06:42 »
Mass hiring. 16 Sr. Techs wanted and 75 trainees!!!
« Last Edit: Mar 04, 2015, 12:11 by Rennhack »
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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #47 on: Mar 04, 2015, 12:11 »
Mass hiring. 16 Sr. Techs wanted and 75 trainees!!!

You should talk them into paying for an add...

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« Reply #48 on: Mar 05, 2015, 08:55 »
Oh, didn't think about that  :-[. My bad. They really should. I'm sure they would get better results that way.
Jason

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #49 on: Mar 14, 2015, 02:56 »
Who's getting this contract? Who's hiring those? Thanks.

Offline Protectologist

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #50 on: Mar 14, 2015, 05:27 »
They are still trying to get approval from the union to hire contractors. If they get that then there will be a contract, if not then they will continue with the normal hiring process. So watch the Hanford.gov web site.

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« Reply #51 on: Mar 26, 2015, 11:55 »
They are still trying to get approval from the union to hire contractors. If they get that then there will be a contract, if not then they will continue with the normal hiring process. So watch the Hanford.gov web site.

Thanks Protectolpgist, and Sorry for this late reply.   Anyways, I am going up there and thanks again for the info.
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« Reply #52 on: Mar 27, 2015, 12:07 »
You should talk them into paying for an add...

Not much convincing was needed,  ...

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« Reply #53 on: Apr 03, 2015, 06:56 »
WRPS has just hired their first contract techs. I haven't found out who the contractor is but it isn't Bartlett or DeNuke. Whoever it was made a mistake. They didn't tell their people they would have to take and pass the DOE core exam before they start getting paid. They walked into the exam cold.

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« Reply #54 on: Apr 03, 2015, 11:57 »
WRPS has just hired their first contract techs. I haven't found out who the contractor is but it isn't Bartlett or DeNuke. Whoever it was made a mistake. They didn't tell their people they would have to take and pass the DOE core exam before they start getting paid. They walked into the exam cold.

Regardless of who is the contractor!  Any "qualified", "experienced", "senior", or any other term you want to use, technician, that doesn't understand that the "DOE Core" is required on a DOE Site, probably doesn't belong on the site, i.e., they should not have been "walking into the exam cold" (and shouldn't have been hired in the first place)!
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« Reply #55 on: Apr 04, 2015, 11:21 »
All RCT's are not created equal.  Some sites just require a 'core' card that covers the first 13 modules.  Those techs could be in that boat.

Some sites with exceptional hazards like Hanford, LANL, INL, etc have more robust requirements, such as the WHOLE RCT test battery, Part 1 '13 common core', Part 2, '19 Site specifics', and part 3, Oral Board. (In addition to the OJT/OJQ).

People that have only been at low hazard sites (like pCi/gm dirt work) are not aware of the more robust requirements, and could very well be surprised.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #56 on: Apr 04, 2015, 11:34 »
And don't forget there are "Senior" RCTs at Hanford that have been there for years, that know they have to pass that test every two years, that struggle with the test. And they have a two year warning and are given two days of review/study before taking the test. Some people just have problems with tests. I've know a lot of good techs that have the knowledge and skills to be valuable in the field but are not comfortable in the classroom.
The bottom line is that if you're coming to Hanford, know there is a written exam. Even if you are exempted from the "core" you will need to take and pass the site specific portion. Do your homework. This site is a good resource for study and test prep.

Offline 61nomad

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #57 on: Apr 04, 2015, 06:56 »
So, subcontractors have to pass the CORE before they get paid?  With a policy like that I am guessing no travel pay, per diem, insurance, sick/vacation days, etc? 

Offline Rennhack

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #58 on: Apr 05, 2015, 11:05 »
So, subcontractors have to pass the CORE before they get paid?  With a policy like that I am guessing no travel pay, per diem, insurance, sick/vacation days, etc? 

The DOE won't pay the prime, and the Prime won't pay subs for 'non-productive' time, which includes training (or vacation/holidays).

It's up to the subs to build in that non-billable time into their billing rate averaged over the year.  -- But hey, if they can talk enough people into working for a week (training) without pay, then it could become a new trend. -- One that could easily spread to other DOE sites.

Some subs will tell you that if you fail, you don't get paid (because they can never get that money back).  As it is, it takes a sub 3 months to make back the non-billable time of that 1 week of training.  If you quit before that, they lose money.
« Last Edit: Apr 06, 2015, 08:03 by Rennhack »

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #59 on: Apr 05, 2015, 09:44 »
When I went to Aiken (SRS-SRR) in 2010 they told me before I went I wouldn't be paid until the DOE core test  was passed and that I had to pass the DOE core test the day I got there (so I could start getting paid by going to training the day after the test).  Everything worked out but it was for sure a concern that made me think twice before going.

Offline Rennhack

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #60 on: Apr 06, 2015, 12:55 »
Below is the standard contract the DOE has at all DOE sites with the primary vendor, which flows down to all subs.  It adds up to 80 hours of training that the vendors can't bill for.  The site manager is also not a billable position.

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The Company will provide payment only for hours where productive work is performed.  No payment will be made to the Contractor for time spent conducting personal business, Contractor Company business, or travel time to or from the work place assignment.

The indicated training/qualifications in the table below for candidates not previously trained and qualified (must be documentable) is considered non billable in support of this statement of work.   The Contractor’s On-Site Project Manager will coordinate scheduling of training to assure efficient use of students’ overall time to minimize cost to Contractor.  Additional training for on-site work is required, and shall be performed in performance of this SOW.

General Training
Required Security Training
Hazwoper 40-hour Course
DOE RCT CORE

Proposed personnel will not be engaged in providing productive service (billable) hours until all of the above training is completed.  All of the above training is at the cost of the contractor.

Non-productive time, holidays, sick leave, vacation, personal business, corporate business, doctor appointments, jury duty, travel time to and from primary work location, site closures, weather delays, early release, compensatory or offsetting time, etc. shall not be billable.   

Again, a GOOD sub usually builds that cost into their billable hours, and pays the student if they pass, but it takes a long time to break even.
« Last Edit: Apr 06, 2015, 01:00 by Rennhack »

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #61 on: Jan 13, 2016, 05:59 »
Could I please get current info on Hanford , contract , pay , housing , etc ???  Thank you for your time.

Offline Rennhack

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #62 on: Jan 14, 2016, 05:54 »
Just a thought, have you tried contacting Marcom?

https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=43357

Offline joejack45

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #63 on: Jan 14, 2016, 10:55 »
Could I please get current info on Hanford , contract , pay , housing , etc ???  Thank you for your time.

Pay is north of $35/hr.Union shop. Marcom is working the WCH contract(i think), which is currently on its way out. The nice thing is you are more north Richland rather than "the site," so your drive is shorter. There are a lot of apartments in the Richland area, and 2 very nice RV parks near site. Expect to pay $700+ for an apartment.
Over the past two years most the contract techs have been offered house jobs if they want them.

Offline Protectologist

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #64 on: Jan 15, 2016, 11:07 »
The WCH contract is being passed to CHPRC over the course of 2016. CHPRC is deciding how many of the WCH people they will need. One of the considerations is another CHPRC project has "peaked" and they are starting to look for places to assign the people working at that project. Many WCH people will be looking for a place to go this summer and fall. The contract with WCH for RCTs will not last beyond that time.

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Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #65 on: Jan 15, 2016, 11:57 »
Thank you very much for your time and info.   :)

Offline 61nomad

Re: The Hanford Saga
« Reply #66 on: Jan 15, 2016, 12:39 »
$39.05/hr is the current union rate for Sr. HP techs

 


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