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Below is the Archive if MASS and MASS/POSS related discussions.
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Re: MASS test
« Reply #1 on: Oct 21, 2008, 03:12 »
I know on some sites web pages they have all the practice exams such as POSS, MASS, ect.  Have him look at the POSS test as well this may have more of the assembly questions he is looking for.

Here are a couple of links to the practice tests:

http://www.progress-energy.com/aboutus/employment/eei/index.asp

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http://www.nukeworker.com/study/POSS.shtml

I beleive these send you to the EEI and one will give you the ability to purchase a book for studying for the test.

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MASS different from POSS?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 21, 2009, 06:33 »
Hi,

I've been reading all the posts about the POSS/MASS tests and after looking at the EEI overviews of the test I realized something about the Math section of the MASS - it is the short version (meaning the 19 questions in 8 minutes).  Can anyone confirm that? 

That would tell me there are only conversions but not algebra nor word problems. 

Anybody taken the MASS test but not the POSS test?  Any comments appreciated most definitely!  I've been given less than a week to prepare!

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Re: MASS different from POSS?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 21, 2009, 09:15 »
In the post about "POSS short math section" your question is answered... I would read this

The MASS math section is the exact same as the conversion section of the POSS. So you are correct with the time/number of Qs/ no word and algebra questions. I have not taken the MASS, but this is what I remember from that post.

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CRITERIA FOR PASSING MASS/POSS
« Reply #4 on: Jan 29, 2009, 07:52 »
Interesting thought:

I took the MASS/POSS combo test, and the short math version was administered first -- this part counts for the MASS test.  I was only able to answer 7 of the 18 questions.

When I took the math section for the POSS - the long version - I completed all of the conversions because I had already seen many of them during the short version of the test.

As a result, assuming the other tests went well -- I could have passed the POSS test but not the MASS.  Will know soon.

Anyone know if the criteria for scoring the two tests is the same?  If I got all 7 answers correct on the short math test MAAAAYBE I still passed.

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Re: CRITERIA FOR PASSING MASS/POSS
« Reply #5 on: Feb 02, 2009, 02:26 »
Update:  I passed the MASS, but not the POSS.  Go for an interview soon.  Thanks for all the help.

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MASS TEst Scores and HAZWOPER Info
« Reply #6 on: Jun 28, 2009, 10:52 »
Hello to everyone, im new to the industry and recently applied for a Nuclear Maintenance Journeyman postition at a Nuclear Plant. I was called in to take the MASS, PAT, and a questionarre test and was informed that day that i passed them all. My question is does anyone know what the total score amount it? I scored 102 and the test administraitor said we needed to score a minimum of 83 to pass, obviously you can score over 100 but im just curious id the 102 score is good or not. My other question is would it be beneficial to me to get the 40 hour HAZWOPER certificate now  or is that something the plant gives you when your hired? Thank you

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Re: MASS TEst Scores and HAZWOPER Info
« Reply #7 on: Jun 29, 2009, 08:37 »
Students taking tests are fond of saying 80 = 100... if you get an 80% (passing) score on a test you have achieved the same goal as someone who got 100%. In most cases very true. In this case 102 = 100.
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Taking the Poss Mass Test tomorrow. Quick Question
« Reply #8 on: Oct 01, 2009, 06:30 »
I am taking the Poss Mass Test tomorrow.  I have been studying all week. I have taken the practice test (EEI) at least 25 times.
As everyone says, the MATH has me worried. Can anyone give me some examples of the math that may be on the test?, Especially the ALGEBRA questions? Also, I have read about every topic on Poss Mass on this site and others. Am I correct in saying that do the questions that you an answer quick first then go back and do the hard ones? They only count the questions you get correct, so if you leave several blank, it isn't going to hurt you?  Does anyone know what percentage you have to answer to pass? I am a little nervous, Thanks for all your help guys.

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Re: Taking the Poss Mass Test tomorrow. Quick Question
« Reply #9 on: Oct 01, 2009, 07:32 »
I have made several posts about this issue.  REFER to the picture that I uploaded.
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POSS/MASS
« Reply #10 on: Apr 30, 2010, 10:10 »
Hello everyone, last week I took the combination test for a fossil fuel plant. Received my results yesterday....I passed the POSS, MASS, and the IM MASS portion! I am very very excited! I would like to personally thank everyone on this site for all the in-depth posts about preemployment testing.  I was very worried about the fact that I did not finish enough on each test.
Assembly-approximately 2/3.
Mechanical-all but 3.
Reading comprehensive -finished all.
Lines test(not graphs)-14 of thirty some.
Short math(all conversions )-9 of 19.

Thanks again everyone.

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MASS/POSS testing
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 10:06 »
-I took the MASS/POSS combination test a couple of weeks ago and today I received the notification that I met or exceeded the required score for EEI companies on both the MASS and the POSS.  I was worried that I did not do very well right after I took the test, but I did study and I applied the advice that is given on this forum, so I can credit that for passing.  
-The test started with conversions.  I had many of these memorized so I worked mainly from that.  Memorizing many conversions gave me plenty of time to work through the test.  At one point I stopped and counted how many I had completed and realized that I had probably finished enough, so I slowed down and worked carefully on the more difficult ones.  I felt that I did OK and I finished quite a few, but not all.  
-Assembly was next.  I did all the ones I could figure out quickly and skipped the harder ones or the ones with many pieces.  I then went back to the harder ones.  I left some blank on purpose.  
-Mechanical concepts came next.  I either knew the answer or I didn’t.  I believe I knew most of them, but there were a few I was not quite sure about.  I think I finished about all of them.  Like someone else said, “these are intuitive in nature”.  
-Tables came next.  This was easy.  I worked fast and I used my left hand to work the table and I kept my right hand close to the next answer line because I started using both on the table and had a harder time finding the answer line than working the graph.  I was maybe a little more than half way down the second column when time was called.   This was a very easy section.  
-The lines graph was next.  This one should be easy, but I think I started off reading the graph wrong and this made me nervous.  I finished maybe about 17-20.  I was not real sure how well I did.  
-We were given a break at this point.  
-Reading came next.  At this point I was tired and still a little in shock from my breakdown on the lines test.  I had trouble concentrating and I feel that I did not do very well.  This section should be easy and the questions follow along with the paragraphs.  The articles were mostly informative stuff that should be common knowledge to power plant workers.  Some what would be the best title stuff, but mainly just factual information easily found in the text.  
-The long math was last.  Conversions were identical to the short version taken earlier.  At this point I realize that I did one conversion from memory wrong on the first test.  Again I did only the conversions that I could work very easy with little to no paper figuring.  I was eager to get to the algebra as I enjoy it.  This was very simple stuff.  The kind you would do in junior high or high school pre-algebra (maybe not even that hard). Example:  2x+2=4.  There are some with decimals, but nothing tricky.  I did find some that had the dreaded no answer choice and I did not mark an answer because this bothered me and I felt I had finished enough anyway.  If you can work the problems on the practice test the math will be no problem.  I feel that the math test I took was easier than the practice test.  I finished quite a few conversions and all the algebra (except two of which I chose to leave blank) and I did a couple very easy third page problems.  
-Stay calm, practice with an ASVAB book, and study a mechanical aptitude and spatial relations book and you will do fine on the test.  Like I said at the beginning, I did not think I did very well right after the test, but I must have done well enough.  It can be a high pressure situation and that is the hardest part about it.  
« Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 10:40 by sps »

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Difference between MASS and POSS tests?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 08, 2010, 11:54 »
This is probably answered somewhere in these forums, but is there a large difference between POSS and MASS tests?  I took the POSS test when interviewing for an AO position at Palo Verde in Arizona about 2-1/2 years ago (seems like they don't want anyone who isn't a Navy nuke or an engineer, but that's a story for another day).  I scored, according to them, in the "nuclear" range on the POSS test.  Since then I haven't been able to find my way into the nuclear industry, but I recently got a call to take the MASS test (again for a job at Palo Verde) this coming week.  When looking at the practice exams on the EEI website, I noticed that they are all identical to the ones that are supplied for the POSS test.  My main question is whether or not it is typically necessary to take the MASS test if one has taken the POSS test successfully previously.

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Re: Difference between MASS and POSS tests?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 09, 2010, 07:15 »
there are some differences in the test..... So yes there is a reason to take both of them depending on what you are applying for / interviewing for. in 2007 i took both the POSS and MASS on the same day for Exelon.

Keep your head up if you did well on the POSS i am sure you can do well on the MASS. Keep striving dont give up the industry is notoriously slow

GOOD LUCK

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POSS/MASS TESTING, how long are the results good for???
« Reply #14 on: Nov 16, 2010, 01:41 »
I took the poss/mass test for georgia power in 2007 and didn't get to move foward, although I passed both test. I need to know are those scores still good? How can I get another card(I lost mine) I tried to call the number(on southern co website to check results) and I do not remember the testing number. So I get no where. I do have obviously my ssn# and the testing date 5-30-07. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: POSS/MASS TESTING, how long are the results good for???
« Reply #15 on: Nov 16, 2010, 02:01 »
Try 00097.  That's the POSS/MASS test code for nuclear.  The documentation I have says the results are valid until the position requirements change or the test itself changes. 

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Re: Is the Poss/Mass really a good aptitude benchmark?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 25, 2010, 04:22 »
I have to agree with BZ on this one. They have to start somewhere and these tests are just as good as any. In my experience, the POSS is a good weed out tool and predictor of future success.

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Re: Is the Poss/Mass really a good aptitude benchmark?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 25, 2010, 06:48 »

Although I have never taken this particular test, it seems very similar to the ASVAB and GATB type tests. I was just curious as to how valid folks thought this type of test was. Thanks for the insight.  

Very valid.  You don't believe they (i.e. the utilities) would waste their time giving it if it was not valid.  Right?

Be alert.  Skip things you can not answer immediately.  Do as much math in your head as possible.  Learn to bubble for speed.  That means dulling the pencil tip some and making three to four circles (non overlapping) and side-swipe the internal portion of the bubble if you missed a spot.  You do not have to bubble the entire bubble.  Just ensure that you get the inner-most portion graphited.  Come back to the ones you skipped after working through once.  And so on until you are done or time is up.

I will warn you that smart people fail this test.  If you perform poorly on one section you will fail.  You must do well on all sections.  The site has good advice on how to pass it so go look under the POSS/MASS child board.

Those test takers that did not follow my advice typically have this response after the test:
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Re: POSS/MASS TESTING, how long are the results good for???
« Reply #18 on: Nov 30, 2010, 07:19 »
7 years. Depends on the company policy as well.

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MASS POSS test results
« Reply #19 on: Jan 02, 2011, 03:50 »
I completed the MASS and POSS tests earlier this year and it only told me I reached standards of 100% of the powerplants that subscribe to the test. Is it possible to check my scores to see if i should retake it?

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Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #20 on: Jan 23, 2011, 10:39 »
Just wanted to thank everyone who gave insight about these test.  As I posted above I passed, but only had 2 days to study for it.  Without some of the helpful insight from everyone I don't think that would have happened.  My suggestions on each part.  First off I took the advice not to guess.  I did not answer a question unless I knew it.  Only once on the spatial diagrams I had it narrowed down to 2 pictures and then I guessed as the proctor called time.  I think this was a big part of me passing, because I only finished the reading comprehension.  All other parts I did not finish.

Math Section-  I really was doing well on this section to start then got to three questions and could not find the answer I went on but it did shake me a little.  In my hurry to try and answer other questions I forgot about the N answer.  There were three problems on my short math test that had N as the answer.  Do not forget about none being an answer.  All I could think about was what was I doing wrong.  I really thought because of that I would not pass that part, but apparently I did the minimum required.  Remember the answers as others have stated because the long section on the Poss is the same conversions, so the more you can remember the better chance you will have on the long section.  On the long section of math I did all the easy conversions then moved on to solve equations for x and did all the easy ones.  I then did the the four or five easy word problems then came back and tried to finish any question I could.  I by no means got it all done.  Not even close, but what I did must have been correct.  I went for speed naturally because you have to work fast, but I did not sacrifice accuracy.


Spatial drawings- All I can say is I did the easy ones at the start then just tried to find any one of the drawings I thought I could do.  There were some on there I could have spent all day on and not finished , but there are some easier ones that a person can do.  I was really worried about this part because I am not that good at spatial recognition, but apparently I was just good enough.

The other parts I thought were easy and just required you to stay clam and work.  Just don't just frustrated stay calm and do the best job you can and most likely you will do well on them.
























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Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #21 on: Feb 05, 2011, 02:43 »
I'm taking the MASS test next week and have 7 days to study.  I just purchased the Power Plant Maintenence Selection Systems Secrets, a study gude published by Mometrix Media.

Question:  The study guide states that you must answer ALL the questions as they make no distinction between a wrong answer and one left blank.  People on forums and others say not to guess and leaving a few blank is better if you run out of time.  Can someone clear this up for me?  Any suggestions on studying beside the EEI site and the book I have?  I'm nervous as heck because I really want this job.   Suggestions appreciated.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #22 on: Feb 05, 2011, 03:01 »
Don't focus on guessing or how many you left blank.  Channel your focus into working quickly and getting every single question you do know right.  They are simply looking for a specific number correct in each section.  People who are studying for the POSS/MASS always dwell on how many they should leave blank or whether to guess or not.  Then they panic and lose focus.  If I can give you any good advice, it would be to work on working the problems quickly.  Work as quickly as you can.  If you are spending too much time on one problem, skip it and continue.  To sum it up, do as many as you can as quickly as you can.  Good luck, and I'm sure you'll do fine.  Get enough sleep and eat a good breakfeast the morning of the test.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #23 on: Feb 05, 2011, 04:37 »
Thanks Pman52.  It's the time contraints that worry me the most.  This is a very large power company and I'd love to get this test under my belt for future employment opportunities.  I tend to struggle on tests.  I passed the CWI exam which was timed also but I used every single minute they allowed. It was a real struggle.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #24 on: Feb 05, 2011, 06:25 »
I just recently passed the mass/poss and I took the advice of the majority of people on this site and worked as fast as possible and made sure I knew the answer or I did not answer it.   Just remember on the math part there is a good possibility some will be N.  I pannicked a little and forgot this so I left 3 not answered because I could not find the correct answer.  As many others have stated work the test given on the site for the mass test and work them in the time given and you should be in good shape.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #25 on: Feb 06, 2011, 04:50 »
To lend credit to what bulldog said, I too, had some questions marked N. I passed the POSS/MASS twice so far, (had N answered questions on both tests) and my best advice is more of the same: Answer quickly and accurately. I did not guess on ANY question, and I did not answer any question that I did not know the answer to. I don't know how they graded the dang tests, but I passed them both. Must be doing something right  :P
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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #26 on: Feb 06, 2011, 08:45 »
Thanks to all who replied.  I assume the pass/fail grading is the same for all power companies?   

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #27 on: Feb 06, 2011, 09:23 »
Thanks for the test taking tips.  My stomach is in a knot but I have some practice tests that came with the study guide I purchased so I can get a feel for it.  The short time frame is what is killing me.  I know I could do much better if I had more time.  I have less than 5 days left to study so time to get off the computer and back to the MASS study guide book.  124 pages long.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #28 on: Feb 06, 2011, 10:12 »
PM sent.  Thank you.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #29 on: Feb 06, 2011, 10:25 »
Hey deskaiser I too am taking the Mass/Poss in about a week. I understand your nervousness. Which site are you taking it for? You can PM me if you'd like.

Hey bb do you mind sending those to me as well?


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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #30 on: Feb 16, 2011, 07:14 »
I passed the MASS test.  The next day, the job posting was cancelled.  Oh well.

Many thanks to all who helped me out.  I'm studying for the POSS test for next time.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #31 on: Feb 17, 2011, 06:14 »
I passed the MASS test.  The next day, the job posting was cancelled.  Oh well.

Many thanks to all who helped me out.  I'm studying for the POSS test for next time.

Good luck! the mass and poss are pretty  similar. The poss is a smidge harder, but if you pass the MASS you can pass the poss ( thats a tongue twister and a half haha)

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Re: Poss/Mass Just Passed
« Reply #32 on: Feb 17, 2011, 08:35 »
Callaway plant is the one I want to get on with.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #33 on: Feb 17, 2011, 06:52 »
Thanks!  I'm pretty pumped up as I studied like heck for the MASS/POSS test.  I was worried about the math portion but when the test started, it turned out to be a conversion table!!??  The utility told me the MASS test is valid for all utilites that use the EEI tests and I can sign a release and have the results sent to any utility.   Well worth the effort to know I can pass it under stress.  Many thanks to the members on this forum.  Great people here.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #34 on: Mar 08, 2011, 09:56 »
Does any company give the eei test or do you have to be invited to take it.  Can you pay to take it any where in US?  My relative took it and failed and that company makes you wait 6 months.  Does any know?

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #35 on: Mar 08, 2011, 01:22 »
Does any company give the eei test or do you have to be invited to take it.  Can you pay to take it any where in US?  My relative took it and failed and that company makes you wait 6 months.  Does any know?

Yes, if they require it and No if they do not
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Yes. 
No. 
Yes.

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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #36 on: Mar 10, 2011, 09:00 »
I bet if you look around that little box labeled "search" You could POSSIBLY find a little bit more information. I think this has been covered AT LEAST once before... MAYBE twice, that may be stretching it though......
Your "relative" is better off moving on and applying to other places. Waiting around for six months is kinda dumb.
You cant "pay" to take the poss.  
I think that NW should have a standard fail response for people who jump on here and ask a question without ever searching for the answer. Although
I do get a kick out of the veterans smashing people for not finding that button and just assuming everyone is standing by to help them with a never thought of question....
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Re: Question about MASS test. Please help.
« Reply #37 on: Mar 10, 2011, 09:35 »
I do get a kick out of the veterans smashing people for not finding that button and just assuming everyone is standing by to help them with a never thought of question....

Think of it as our "social networking" tool....we're just trying to weed out the flubbers early!


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Is the AEP MASS/POSS the same as the EEI MASS/POSS?
« Reply #38 on: Apr 13, 2011, 09:18 »
I am going to take the MASS and the POSS test on Wednesday of next week for a possible internship at Cook Nuclear Power Plant. I was informed today in one of my energy production classes that AEP does not use the traditional MASS/POSS tests. Is this true? Should I continue to study the practice EEI tests and Practice ASVAB tests? Any advice you may have would be appreciated. Thank you

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Re: Is the AEP MASS/POSS the same as the EEI MASS/POSS?
« Reply #39 on: Apr 13, 2011, 09:35 »
considering the POSS and MASS are standardized tests given by one company, Id assume they were all pretty similar... It wont hurt to practice the EEI tests regardless.

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Re: Is the AEP MASS/POSS the same as the EEI MASS/POSS?
« Reply #40 on: Apr 13, 2011, 10:43 »
Ok that is what I was thinking. thank you

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Re: Is the AEP MASS/POSS the same as the EEI MASS/POSS?
« Reply #41 on: Apr 13, 2011, 11:12 »
I have taken it three times.  Go ahead and study the practice tests.  However, keep in mind;  the whole idea is that these tests are timed.  You are only graded on the questions that you answer, and of those answers, the ones that are correct.  If you find yourself spending any time on a question, move on to the next.  When you complete the test, use your time you have left to attempt the questions you skipped.  That is the main problem people have taking these tests.  You are not penalized for the questions you do not attempt to answer.  I passed all three, never studied.  Studying for these tests can make you apprehensive, worried, and nervous.  Now, I am not suggesting that you do not look into what type of questions there are, but don't worry about having to spend so much time performing practice tests.  Just a hint.  Good Luck!

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Re: Is the AEP MASS/POSS the same as the EEI MASS/POSS?
« Reply #42 on: Apr 14, 2011, 09:03 »
Thank you. I'll be sure to let you guys know how I do.

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MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #43 on: Jul 29, 2011, 12:42 »
So I took a Mass/Poss combo test through EEI in February and I failed it. From my understanding depending on where you are at you can take these tests again you just have to wait 90 days or so.

My question, since I failed the tests will this hurt my chances of getting a job at a plant? The reason I ask is about a month ago I applied for a job at the Zion Nuclear Plant and never heard back from them.

I got to thinking back to my test results and remembered filling out a sheet of paper of the US and the different plants I would like my scores to be sent to. I only checked a few boxes/states not sure which ones now.

Than I read this post on here saying
EEI test results are only good for 7 years.

If this is true am I screwed from getting jobs in those states I check boxed?

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Re: MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #44 on: Jul 29, 2011, 08:50 »
So I took a Mass/Poss combo test through EEI in February and I failed it. From my understanding depending on where you are at you can take these tests again you just have to wait 90 days or so.

My question, since I failed the tests will this hurt my chances of getting a job at a plant? The reason I ask is about a month ago I applied for a job at the Zion Nuclear Plant and never heard back from them.

I got to thinking back to my test results and remembered filling out a sheet of paper of the US and the different plants I would like my scores to be sent to. I only checked a few boxes/states not sure which ones now.

Than I read this post on here saying
If this is true am I screwed from getting jobs in those states I check boxed?

You've got nothing to worry about (except passing the test).

It will only be a problem for the same utility you tested at and failed.  You can immediately take the test again with another (i.e. different) utility.  Though you might want to figure out where you need to do better first.

Currently,
1.  You are fine for any other utility that you have applied for as long as you haven't failed it their too (in the last 90 days). 
2.  You will not be asked if you have taken it and passed / failed by another utility.
3.  If this is for the same utility then you will be waiting.
4.  Past failures don't count as long as you have a current passing test on file.


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Re: MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #45 on: Jul 29, 2011, 01:11 »
Thanks for the info, this puts my mind at ease. At least until I have to take the test again.

Offline VVilly

Re: MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #46 on: Jul 29, 2011, 06:40 »
You say this


If this is for the same utility then you will be waiting.

So what exactly do you mean, how long will I be waiting... 90 days so I could take it again that is if there is a position open for me to take the test.

I should have mentioned this earlier but I did not take the MASS/POSS combo at a facility I took it at my college through EEI. I had to pay $30 to take it.

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Additional POSS Practice Exams
« Reply #47 on: Aug 26, 2011, 02:35 »
Hello everybody,

I am taking the POSS test with Duke Energy in a few weeks have been studying for the test. However, the only practice exams I can find are on the eei.org website. Does anyone know where I can find additional practice exams? Thanks in advance! 

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Re: Additional POSS Practice Exams
« Reply #48 on: Aug 26, 2011, 04:40 »
Searching in the" poss' section would make a lot of sense to me.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #49 on: Aug 26, 2011, 08:14 »
So would answering his question, *sigh*.  No, that's it (re: test banks for the EEI POSS/MASS).

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #50 on: Aug 26, 2011, 10:21 »
So would answering his question, *sigh*.  No, that's it (re: test banks for the EEI POSS/MASS).

Considering I HAVE answered his question in other posts ill just take your sarcasm with a grain of salt. This has been answered too many times and he didn't even look. This was originally posted in the wrong section for starters....

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #51 on: Aug 26, 2011, 10:37 »
Does two wrong's make a right?  Seriously, you typed more than necessary.  A simple "no" would have 'surf'iced'.  I do not want you to argue with me like others here.  Let it go.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #52 on: Aug 26, 2011, 10:41 »
Does two wrong's make a right?  Seriously, you typed more than necessary.  A simple "no" would have 'surf'iced'.  I do not want you to argue with me like others here.  Let it go.

Sure. Little annoyed because of the amount I have posted on mass poss and tech advice.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #53 on: Aug 26, 2011, 10:49 »
If you haven't noticed yet, very few posters actually read anything we post if it isn't directed directly to their needs / posts.  Lighten up & feel free to re-post your advice 10 to the fifth (or was that th fifty'th?).  Or don't.  Them'z th' rule'z yo.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #54 on: Aug 26, 2011, 11:04 »
If you haven't noticed yet, very few posters actually read anything we post if it isn't directed directly to their needs / posts.  Lighten up & feel free to re-post your advice 10 to the fifth (or was that th fifty'th?).  Or don't.  Them'z th' rule'z yo.

Well that's why I told him to search the poss section. He originally posted this in the" getting in" section and didn't even look here. One of the admins moved his topuc here, which may be part of the confusion.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #55 on: Aug 27, 2011, 09:51 »
One of the admins moved his topuic here, (-1 Sp) which may be part of the confusion.

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Re: Additional POSS Practice Exams
« Reply #56 on: Aug 29, 2011, 11:18 »
Hello everybody,

I am taking the POSS test with Duke Energy in a few weeks have been studying for the test. However, the only practice exams I can find are on the eei.org website. Does anyone know where I can find additional practice exams? Thanks in advance! 

I got a book off of amazon.com (several options) that really helped me out. It had practice tests that were almost identical to the real thing. I was able to get good enough that I passed my first time at the nuclear level. The actual letter you get form EEI says you passed with a level that meets or exceeds a percentage of participating companies. Just get a rhythm and utilize that while taking the actual test.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #57 on: Aug 29, 2011, 07:52 »
Doyou have the name of that book from amazon? I have a friend that neww and could use a copy. ty

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MASS test
« Reply #58 on: Sep 14, 2011, 05:38 »
NewBIE,were can i go in Massachusetts at a community college and take this test or maybe in New England  THANxxxx

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Re: MASS test
« Reply #59 on: Sep 15, 2011, 08:39 »
Only two possible ways to take any EEI test. 1) You are invited by a company who administers the test for a possible job opportunity or 2) You are attending a school that partners with a company or EEI and you take it there.

You can't just go and take it somewhere without being invited basically.

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Re: MASS test
« Reply #60 on: Sep 15, 2011, 08:56 »
Only two possible ways to take any EEI test. 1) You are invited by a company who administers the test for a possible job opportunity or 2) You are attending a school that partners with a company or EEI and you take it there.

You can't just go and take it somewhere without being invited basically.

Yes and No.

You were right up to the end.  You do not have to be invited to take the test if you pay to take it.  Which is what some community colleges are doing.  In addition most of those schools also offer a prep course.

NewBIE,were can i go in Massachusetts at a community college and take this test or maybe in New England  THANxxxx

I know I mentioned this in the other thread you posted.  You need to call the community colleges and universities in your area or the area you are looking to take it.  I am not going to do it for you.

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Re: MASS test
« Reply #61 on: Sep 15, 2011, 01:27 »
Yes and No.

You were right up to the end.  You do not have to be invited to take the test if you pay to take it.  Which is what some community colleges are doing.  In addition most of those schools also offer a prep course.

I know I mentioned this in the other thread you posted.  You need to call the community colleges and universities in your area or the area you are looking to take it.  I am not going to do it for you.

Mac

Thank you for the clarification Mac, I guess it is not quite as exclusive as I had thought.

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Re: MASS test
« Reply #62 on: Sep 15, 2011, 01:46 »
Thank you for the clarification Mac, I guess it is not quite as exclusive as I had thought.

It's new.  Like in the last 6 to 7 years.  The utilities are hurting to find folks (particularly locals) that can pass it.  So, they offer it to the college kids as a college credit is some cases.  And, in others they are required to pass it before entering into a Utility sponsored program that feeds the needs of the utility.

I figure since the number of folks that can pass it went down and the numbers of folks needed went up they (the utilities and college's) decided it was beneficial to go this route.

Most of the college's that participate offer paid events to coincide with the college students.  It's a no brainier idea really.  Though when the need for employee's goes away I bet this will too.

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Re: MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #63 on: Sep 25, 2011, 07:55 »
I am taking the Poss/Mass test next week for the second time.
The first time I received a letter saying I was not recommended for the job.
I studied for 2 weeks solid for hours each day and still didn't pass.
I thought I did good, but guess I was wrong.
So, a year later I am taking the test again.
Any pointers on the test?
Do you remember any questions on the test?
I was really crushed I didn't pass and have been studying like crazy for the test next week.  :'(

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Re: MASS/POSS combo test.
« Reply #64 on: Sep 26, 2011, 08:55 »
I am taking the Poss/Mass test next week for the second time.
The first time I received a letter saying I was not recommended for the job.
I studied for 2 weeks solid for hours each day and still didn't pass.
I thought I did good, but guess I was wrong.
So, a year later I am taking the test again.
Any pointers on the test?
Do you remember any questions on the test?
I was really crushed I didn't pass and have been studying like crazy for the test next week.  :'(

The name of the game is technique. You can be the smartest person around, but if you can't perform on this test, your knowledge does you no good.

The best advice I can give is to develop ways to work quickly and accurately. Time management is your best friend. I know that may sound like common sense and even very easy, but as you know by taking this test, it is not quite as simple as some may think.

Make sure you have a MASS/POSS study book and time yourself taking taking the practice exams. Tweak your technique until you can answer most or all the questions in the allotted time.

Good luck!

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #65 on: Oct 09, 2011, 08:41 »
Hello,

Thanks for all your info guys, it's been helpful but if some1 could email me one of those extra test I would appreciate it. My email vincedeblasis@gmail.com .
I have the poss/mass c test with duke energy and of I pass I have a interview to follow right after the test.

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Re: Mass/Poss Test
« Reply #66 on: Oct 09, 2011, 10:05 »
Hello,

Thanks for all your info guys, it's been helpful but if some1 could email me one of those extra test I would appreciate it. My email vincedeblasis@gmail.com .
I have the poss/mass c test with duke energy and of I pass I have a interview to follow right after the test.

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Pertaining to the POSS/MASS tests
« Reply #67 on: Oct 17, 2011, 06:04 »
Hello, I recently attained my BS in physics and have been thinking about a career in the nuclear field.  I am scheduled to take a MASS/POSS aptitude test on October 28th for FirstEnergy to work at their plant in Perry, OH.  I have reviewed the EEI practice tests online and was wondering if those were actually relevant.  I find them rather easy to breeze through.  Before getting my BS in physics, I had taken the ASVAB in my senior year of high school, earning a 94 on it.

I'm not entirely certain if this is a good first post, but what would you say is the most difficult part of these aptitude exams?  Judging by the "mixed" reviews on this website thus far, I would assume that it is primarily time that causes people to feel anxious.  Would this be correct?

The mathematics, tables, graphs, reading and mechanics all seem quite simple.  The spatial recognition can take a bit of time to get  used to but I feel confident in my abilities to pass this test.

Any suggestions and/or recommendations would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: Pertaining to the POSS/MASS tests
« Reply #68 on: Oct 17, 2011, 08:21 »
Work quickly.  Work accurately.  What more do you need too know?!?!?!?   ;)

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Re: Pertaining to the POSS/MASS tests
« Reply #69 on: Oct 17, 2011, 09:06 »
I am scheduled to take a MASS/POSS aptitude test on October 28th for FirstEnergy to work at their plant in Perry, OH.  I have reviewed the EEI practice tests online and was wondering if those were actually relevant

Who do you think wrote the POSS exam?

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Re: Pertaining to the POSS/MASS tests
« Reply #70 on: Oct 17, 2011, 11:22 »
I just took POSS test recently and I thought the same as you, that practice was easy.  Well true exam was pretty much the same as examples.  It's all about accuracy and time.  Moderator of exam stated at beginning that almost no one completes each section see complete as many as possible as accurate as possible.  I just kept taking practice over and over to speed up my answering time and it work well enough for me to pass and get an interview,

Offline dheaney

Question about MASS test
« Reply #71 on: Feb 06, 2012, 09:07 »
I'm taking the MASS test soon as a prerequisite to get into a program at my local college.  Read the forums pretty thoroughly and just have one question; Does the MASS test have only conversions on it like the example tests from EEI show or is there basic algebra also?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #73 on: Feb 06, 2012, 09:31 »
I read that posting and still have no answer. Did you link it because there was an answer there or because you want me to post my question there?  What I want to know is if there is more than just conversions on the MASS test alone, not the MASS/POSS combo test.  A little clarity if you would please.

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #74 on: Feb 06, 2012, 11:43 »
It only has simple conversions and algebra. Very basic stuff, just work through it fast.


edit: do the practice tests the way they are intended.... get a timer, stop when the times up and see where you are.
« Last Edit: Feb 06, 2012, 11:43 by Starkist »

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #75 on: Feb 07, 2012, 12:28 »
Thanks Starkist.  I bought the study guide from http://www.mo-media.com/mass/ and was able to all the sections in the allotted time while only missing 1 - 3 a section.  Also have Barron's Mechanical Aptitude and Spatial Relations Test book that I've been studying but from what I see the only thing this book helped with was giving some more spacial relations assembly questions.  Also from what I see on the practice tests I've done the Mechanical Aptitude section of the test will be pretty easy and basic.  Does it change at all in the real test? Or is it the same format like ask a simple question about pulleys with a picture and answer A, B, Or C?  I'm feeling decently confident about time and overall knowledge..... just memorizing conversions now.

Thanks again.

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #76 on: Feb 07, 2012, 03:27 »
Most of the questions are the same from what I remember. I took the MASS, POSS, and TECH in a two week span. The MASS and POSS were incredibly similar. Tech was stupid easy. (Not what you asked, just sayin I may be "Cross threading"). I just used standard online practice tests. The questions were about the same, perhaps slightly more difficult, but not ridiculous (just MORE of them obviously).  Conversions are a VERY small part of the test, dont freak out about it.

These arent tests to determine your knowledge, these are tests to determine your grace under pressure. Ive said it several times, its 7th grade math, 5th grade assembly, 3rd grade graphing. Its all about the time crunch.

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #77 on: Feb 07, 2012, 03:30 »
Its very easy, and just like the example test.  I would practice doing long division by hand, since you likely haven't done that lately.  There is a good tip somewhere on this forum for the table reading section.  Make a straight edge by folding a sheet of scrap paper over in half twice.  Use that to speedily read across a row on the table without losing your place.  You can also use it to read the graphs although I found that to be distracting.

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #78 on: Feb 07, 2012, 05:11 »
p.s. regarding the math, if you get stuck, all the answers are on the multiple choice answers. If you get stuck, move on, and if you have time, go back and plug and chug. Works well for the algebra sections if you can work fast.

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Re: MASS TEst Scores and HAZWOPER Info
« Reply #79 on: Jun 30, 2012, 07:43 »
Can you give me some samples of what questions is on it because i take it next week

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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #80 on: Jul 28, 2012, 11:25 »
I know this is a little old but I passed my MASS test and got accepted into my local college's nuclear program following the mechanical track.  My orientation is on Tuesday and I AM PUMPED!  Thanks for the all of the help, the test was very easy as most said.
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Re: Question about MASS test
« Reply #81 on: Jul 28, 2012, 11:39 »
I know this is a little old but I passed my MASS test and got excepted into my local college's nuclear program following the mechanical track.  My orientation is on Tuesday and I AM PUMPED!  Thanks for the all of the help, the test was very easy as most said.

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« Reply #82 on: Jul 30, 2012, 11:44 »
Congratulations and thanks for the update, old or not.  +K
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Mass/Poss Testing
« Reply #83 on: Aug 08, 2012, 04:03 »
I am preparing to take the poss/mass test, but I need some study notes. Any help

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Re: Mass/Poss Testing
« Reply #84 on: Aug 08, 2012, 04:07 »
I am preparing to take the poss/mass test, but I need some study notes. Any help

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,14894.msg101893.html#msg101893

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Re: Mass/Poss Testing
« Reply #85 on: Aug 08, 2012, 08:03 »
I got my Poss results back today. I passed!

I used EEI's practice exam on their website to practice, as well as a book on Amazon's Kindle store.

For the most part, anything you read on these forums are legit pieces of advice. Follow them.

Note: I only finished 2 of the sections, but still passed.

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Re: Mass/Poss Testing
« Reply #86 on: Aug 09, 2012, 02:35 »
I got my Poss results back today. I passed!

Congrats!  :)
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How to recover massposs scores?
« Reply #87 on: Nov 27, 2012, 07:42 »
Hey guys, Iv been a long time creeper of the site learning and studying little odds and ends. But at the moment I am in a dilemma, Iv managed to lose my massposs scores due to a very foolish email accident (phone in pocket, deleted entire inbox) I passed both mass and poss sections on the 1st try and am very eager to get a job in the nuke world, so my question to you is, how do i retrieve the scores to this test? any help would be appreciated!

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has anyone used the power plant maintenance study guide?
« Reply #88 on: Nov 30, 2012, 09:00 »
i need all the help i can get for taking the MASS test is the power plant maintenance selection system secrets study guide any good?  thanks in advance
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POSS/MASS
« Reply #90 on: Dec 30, 2012, 12:17 »
Taking the POSS/MASS soon. Is this one test or two seperate ones. In other words, will there be one of each section or two? I think 4 hours have been set aside to take the test. The time of each section doesn't match up for that amount of time.

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Re: POSS/MASS
« Reply #91 on: Dec 30, 2012, 04:08 »
Taking the POSS/MASS soon. Is this one test or two seperate ones. In other words, will there be one of each section or two? I think 4 hours have been set aside to take the test. The time of each section doesn't match up for that amount of time.

Why worry about the time, I'd worry about passing the test. Are you in a hurry or a race or something?

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Re: POSS/MASS
« Reply #92 on: Dec 30, 2012, 07:23 »
Taking the POSS/MASS soon. Is this one test or two seperate ones. In other words, will there be one of each section or two? I think 4 hours have been set aside to take the test. The time of each section doesn't match up for that amount of time.

POSS and MASS are separate tests. So, if you are taking both, you would duplicate similar sections.

My guess (from the 4 hour time limit) is that they'll actually only have you take one or the other.  They might have just sent you a form letter that lists both so the HR people don't have to figure out which one you are actually scheduled for...?

Good luck with the test!  :)







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POSS/MASS conversion question
« Reply #93 on: Jan 03, 2013, 09:54 »
I'm making some flashcards for unit conversions. Any suggestions on learning odd measurements I should learn. Besides the basics I have rod, fathoms, furlong, hand, shackle, gill, barrel, chain and a few more. Am I overdoing it or no.

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Re: POSS/MASS conversion question
« Reply #94 on: Jan 03, 2013, 10:07 »
How many barleycorns in an Angstrom? ;)

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Re: POSS/MASS conversion question
« Reply #95 on: Jan 04, 2013, 11:27 »
Ah ok, I will make a few more cards.

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MAPP/POSS line tracing
« Reply #96 on: Jan 07, 2013, 10:09 »
DO either one of these consist of any line tracing tests?

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Re: MAPP/POSS line tracing
« Reply #97 on: Jan 07, 2013, 08:02 »
DO either one of these consist of any line tracing tests?

Are you asking about the MAPP?  ...or the MASS? 

If the former, I don't know.

If the latter, no, it and the POSS do not have any lines to trace.


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Re: MAPP/POSS line tracing
« Reply #98 on: Jan 08, 2013, 10:30 »
Yes I meant the MASS. Thanks

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POSS/MASS and TECH results retrieval
« Reply #99 on: Mar 01, 2013, 10:50 »
Hello all. I took the POSSMASS and TECH tests for the Southern Company last semester as I am currently going to school to be an I&C Tech. I am currently trying to get a hold of my test results to use for application with other employers. I know that I passed both of the tests. Although I would absolutely love getting on with the Southern Company I realize that things dont always work out perfectly and I have noticed that several other employers such as the TVA require that you also pass these tests.

Thanks in advance if anyone has any answers. I talked with the HR guy that has been in contact with us and he informed me that he couldn't get me my results because they are only given results as either Pass or Fail.

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Re: POSS/MASS and TECH results retrieval
« Reply #100 on: Mar 02, 2013, 09:55 »
The HR guy is correct.

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Re: POSS/MASS and TECH results retrieval
« Reply #101 on: Mar 02, 2013, 10:24 »
Besides, if your knowledge is solid, these tests only get more comfortable to take. Often times some of the folks in the interview/hiring cycle happen to wander by and chat with test takers, so if your appearance, demeanor and conversation style exude professionalism, it may improve your chances of being selected. YMMV
« Last Edit: Mar 02, 2013, 10:47 by HydroDave63 »

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Re: POSS/MASS and TECH results retrieval
« Reply #102 on: Mar 02, 2013, 10:27 »
Ah well alrighty then. I was mainly wondering for convenience sake. I didn't feel like the tests were overly complicated or anything of that nature. Was really just curious to see if there was a way I could omit having to take them again for different employers.

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poss and mass
« Reply #103 on: May 13, 2013, 09:29 »
I recently took the poss. test and the mass test from EEi at a college I attend at and I was curious to know if any body can explain to me the results ????????????????

the letter said we have compared your scores to the poss and mass cut off scores used by participating companies and have the following results

your score met or exceeded the cutoff used by 0%of participating companies what in gods name dose that mean ???? vary frustrating

 

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Re: poss and mass
« Reply #104 on: May 14, 2013, 06:55 »
It sounds like 0% of the utilities that use the test would select you for an interview.

Study harder, practice more, take it again, because you did not score high enough to get past the initial screening purpose of the test.

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Re: poss and mass
« Reply #105 on: May 30, 2013, 04:23 »
Yep, while it may be dissapointing to see you don't meet any EEI utility criterion... study harder right now if you are looking to take it again.  Utilize the practice tests and time yourself.
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poss/mass question
« Reply #106 on: Jun 05, 2013, 10:52 »
I have searched and haven't found a answer anywhere to my question. last week I took the POSS/MASS for a fossil plant. well when they gave us the info sheet for finding out if we passed, they had marked for POSS/MASS (fossil/hydro) and POSS/MASS (nuclear). I found out yesterday I passed the fossil combined, and failed the nuke op but passed the nuke maint. My question is will this affect me being eligible for the AO position at the fossil plant? Just trying to calm my nerves. thanks in advance.

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Re: poss/mass question
« Reply #107 on: Jun 06, 2013, 05:20 »
I don't think there is a nuke maint. That would be the MASS, it's pass or fail. The only nuke level is the POSS. At least that is what it was like when I took it. I would think you'd be ok if you passed for fossil.

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Re: poss/mass question
« Reply #108 on: Jun 06, 2013, 02:09 »
I don't think there is a nuke maint. That would be the MASS, it's pass or fail.

When I took the MASS test for a nuke plant the Test Administer explained it this way.
It is not a "pass or fail", each utility/plant has a set standard for the test. If you meet their standard you are "recommended" for employment. So, just because you are "recommended"  for one utility/plant does not mean that your score was high enough for another or vice versa.

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Re: poss/mass question
« Reply #109 on: Jun 06, 2013, 06:25 »
When I took the MASS test for a nuke plant the Test Administer explained it this way.
It is not a "pass or fail", each utility/plant has a set standard for the test. If you meet their standard you are "recommended" for employment. So, just because you are "recommended"  for one utility/plant does not mean that your score was high enough for another or vice versa.
Agreed. I took it last winter and the POSS was the only option to pass at nuke level. MASS was only pass or fail.

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Re: poss/mass question
« Reply #110 on: Jun 06, 2013, 06:28 »
ddickey it said MASS and POSS for nuclear. they were separated like that for fossil as well. I just don't understand why the nuke was even involved since its for a coal burner? I just wanted to make sure I was still eligible for the job there since I passed for fossil.

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Re: poss/mass question
« Reply #111 on: Jun 07, 2013, 08:14 »
Perhaps
If the MASS/POSS are taken for a utility with significant nuke and fossil, they have it for both.
If taken for a Nuke opening, only scored for nuke
If taken for a Fossil opening, scored for fossil
If they screen for nuke when testing for fossil, may get lucky and find a jewel...

Good luck, hope you get an interview
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Offline mac1911

Help with MASS prep!
« Reply #112 on: Jul 13, 2013, 05:34 »
Hey guy. I recently have been selected to take the mass test. I am already in the nuclear industry just taking a different career path. I have studied the EEI practice test and it just seems to good to be true. The actual test MUST be harder than that. If you have any pointers please weigh in!! Thanks!

Offline drcruz

Guessing on the POSS
« Reply #113 on: Aug 05, 2013, 12:10 »
(I tried to search for the answer)

I'm currently a LO being laid off from SONGS. The last time I took the POSS test was in 1991 (obviously passed) and I've also taken the MASS test (long story on why I took the MASS) about the mid '90s (I think I passed - can't remember). I'm now applying for a job for an instant lic. and if Edison lost my records for the POSS test I'm going to have to take it again and the 50% failure rate is making me nervous.

So, back when I took the POSS/MASS I took the tests as fast as I could making sure I answered correctly as many questions as possible (like everyone else), but I also budgeted enough time to blindly fill in the rest of the exam not knowing anything about the "guessing" controversy. As far as I can tell when I blindly guessed the last quarter of the test (when I was crunched for time) I still end up passing both exams.

Am I crazy, am I a lucky guesser or does guessing not really penalize you?

Thanks All...

Offline drcruz

Re: Guessing on the POSS
« Reply #114 on: Aug 05, 2013, 12:21 »
Also, which ASVAB book do you recommend? There's a bunch on amazon.

Thanks again


Offline 175mws

This is how it went down for me.

Your results is as follows:
 
POSS:  Recommended
MASS:  Not Recommended

How can I pass one and not the other? Its the same test taken at the same time. how is MASS scored vs.POSS  

I am a CRO for past 15 years in power and before power 6 years in a refinery my employer requires a POSS/MASS test to transfer from plant to plant.
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2014, 11:49 by 175mws »

Offline Starkist

This is how it went down for me.

Your results is as follows:
 
POSS:  Recommended
MASS:  Not Recommended

How can I pass one and not the other? Its the same test taken at the same time. how is MASS scored vs.POSS  

I am a CRO for past 15 years in power and before power 6 years in a refinery my employer requires a POSS/MASS test to transfer from plant to plant.


The POSS and MASS are graded under the same system (an "aptitude index" as they refer it to. I will not even begin to speculate on how they come to those numbers), and the tests are used congruently for the same purpose (according to EEI's words themselves " . The MASS and POSS batteries may be concurrently administered for this purpose, using specialized administration instructions").  Both are applied a 0-15 aptitude score, and if you fail one section, it fails you for the whole test.

This is pretty much the most public information I could find about these tests grading criteria honestly. So the way to look at it, is "whats different". The only section the MASS has that the POSS C does not, is the "easy math section" (the first math portion of the combined MASS/POSS is the MASS math section)(the POSS "B" does not have the higher level math section for those curious). Is it at all possible you failed that section? Leave some blanks/make some guesses?
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2014, 02:29 by Starkist »

Offline 175mws

This is what HR told me, FWIW

"The POSS consists of and is scored from Assembly, Mechanical Concepts, Tables and Graphs, Reading Comprehension and Mathematical Usage.
The MASS consists of and is scored from Assembly, Mechanical Concepts, Reading Comprehension and Mathematical usage."


She will not tell me what test I did poor on.. I think it was the Line tracing or Math since Tables and Graphs was not part of my test. It was the POSS B test that I took.

Not passing the test is the worst part of the whole thing,  In the power plant world that test means a lot.  I will take the test every chance I can tell I pass it.

Thanks for the reply Starkist.. Maybe broadzillia can shed some light on it
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2014, 04:22 by 175mws »

Offline Starkist

Unfortunately, its all speculation at this point. You should have some semblance of what you think you did poorly on honestly. Its a stressful test, especially the combined one being so long. From what I can gather, it appears they use the same scale to grade both the tests, but its hard to say with how secretive they keep those things.


A way around the time delay for the retesting is apply at another facility. Entergy is fantastic for transferring test scores.

Offline 175mws

I am 100% certain that I messed up on the math. I tried to get them all correct and I think I did but only completed 8 or 9 of the math questions. I will practice and gain more speed for the next time..  the only thing that is messing with my head now. what test is harder to pass MASS,POSS or POSS,MASS  :-[  I was thinking that the MASS was the easy part.

Offline Starkist

I am 100% certain that I messed up on the math. I tried to get them all correct and I think I did but only completed 8 or 9 of the math questions. I will practice and gain more speed for the next time..  the only thing that is messing with my head now. what test is harder to pass MASS,POSS or POSS,MASS  :-[  I was thinking that the MASS was the easy part.



I've taken the POSS alone, MASS alone, POSS/MASS combo probably dozen times now (all passed, just time constraints with job searching led me to taking the tests instead of getting a score transfered)... the POSS is the "harder" of the two for sure. But mine have always been POSS C, not POSS B, so I'd wager the MASS/POSS B would be equal.

As far as the "math" part, my only advice is to not be afraid to skip questions. Wasting time on a triple conversion when the next question is a single conversion is a waste of time. Was your math section like 16 questions long or was it several pages?  The problem with these tests, its hard to practice make believe conversions...

Offline 175mws

It was the short math test. So passing the Math on the POSS should have been a PASS on the MASS, making me want to look at line tracing section a bit more. remember my test did not have Charts and Graphs section. I could not do more then 9 of those in the time limit.

Offline Starkist

It was the short math test. So passing the Math on the POSS should have been a PASS on the MASS, making me want to look at line tracing section a bit more. remember my test did not have Charts and Graphs section. I could not do more then 9 of those in the time limit.

The line test is your graph section. Was it the frequency chart with hearing and stuff?

Offline 175mws

no it was line tracing kind of like print reading. Follow the line from a number to a letter

Offline Starkist

no it was line tracing kind of like print reading. Follow the line from a number to a letter

these things?


Offline 175mws

No it looks like a maze of lines you must follow them to a letter.

Offline Hurley889

Got notified today I passed the MASS test for a I&C job at a coal plant. Like many others, I was worried if I passed or not.
I studied the EEI practice tests and read on this forum what others had said from their experiences. It surely paid off, going into it completely blind would have been difficult, time is the factor! Now to start preparing for the interview! Whew, nice to have a little stress relief! Thanks everyone, great information here. 

 


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