Quote from: OldHP on Mar 10, 2011, 10:26 And now let me tell you why our educational system is going down hill fast (and I'll admit I'm a lot older than most of you). When I went to HS: Basic Physics was a Freshman (9th grade) class, Basic Trig was a So or Jr class - these were required for all (college prep or not). Basic Calc was a required class for all college prep (even those headed for an English, History, etc, program). Now wonder why our children are not getting an adequate education! JMO That was the path we did when I was in school. I took Calc as a Junior. The answer to the famed 'W' question of "Is our children learning?" Is no! The teachers are not to blame either, this country has a bad taste in its mouth for overpaid bad teachers and it's ridiculous. Wisconsin teachers are not why we test so low. We don't value education and our educators enough. We are making our teachers teach to these stupid standardized tests. Parents are coddling these kids and defending them all the time giving the teachers no room for discipline or control of the classroom. On the same note, kids are distracted by cell phones and tech crap that is in their pockets. We are cutting resources from the schools left and right (in addition to teachers!) and making our teachers work in much larger classrooms with far less resources. I'm afraid of where to put my kid in this declining educational system... Ok, off the stump.....