Sub or Carrier guys?

[Navy2B]

6. You may have internet and phones on a carrier,

Hi, how restricted is the internet and phone use on a carrier? I currently use instant messaging to keep in touch. Would that be restricted?

Is internet usage essentially all read only?

This is a bit important to me, because it seems like I'd love sub duty more IF internet access is useless.

[taterhead]

Internet:  On Nimitz, all have internet access, but depending on operational status, we shift to "tiered usage", in which, usage is controlled by tiers.  For instance, the bottom tier is pretty much shipwide usage.  The next tier up will eliminate anyone E3 and below.  The next tier is CPO and above....etc.  So you will have internet to some extent, and email pretty much all the time, although the limiting factor there is computer time, which is generally limited during the workday.  That said, barring EMCON levels, you will be able to check your email every day or so. 

For essentially useless, I am not sure what you mean.  You didn't hear it from me, but I have seen guys buy cars from the Persian Gulf with their reenlistment bonuses, manage bank accounts, buy stocks, you name it.

Instant messaging will be hard, and guys will be pissed you are hogging up computer time to IM with your family vice emailing them, if you could even get AIM express to load.

Oh, and we are in 8 section duty (again) after testing is over this month.  Eight section!  My buddy at Point Loma sub base stands 3 duty days in the same period that I stand one!

[ender17]

Actually, Instant Messaging is pretty buch banned for use.  Besides, you can't (well not allowed too) download any programs onto the computers.  Can't even access your Yahoo account either.  If you can, then your computer security peoples are all jacked up.  But yeah, you can doo all that other internet stuff.  I used to order car parts while underway.

[flamatrix99]

Hmm, this is a tough question to answer without potentially offending the sensitive types out there.

Don't volunteer submarines until you are in Prototype, then you can ask the sea-returnee instructors about their experiences.

I volunteered for subs in boot, but that was in the fashion I joined the Navy, one big shotgun blast.

Nuke? What's a nuke? Ok I'll do that.

Machinist Mate? What's an MM, ok sign me up.

Subs? Page-13? What's that. Ok, I'll do that too.

I had no idea.

Best decisions I ever made.

However, nukeworker.com was not available to me in 1996, so do some research and find out for yourself.

Hehehe sounds like how I got into the nuclear navy.  I was a bubblehead myself (MM1/SS) and can't imagine being on one of those targets with 5000 of my closest friends.

I was in the Navy about 4 years before I saw a skimmer. I spent my last 3 years in the Navy on two submarine tenders (Dixon and McKee) working in Nuclear Repair with some surface and mostly sub guys. I also presently work with some ex nuke surface guys. 

On a submarine M-Division does everything from Main/Aux Seawater, running the evaporator and/or lube oil purifiers. Then five minutes later you could be working on reactor systems. Depends what work is going on. You do alittle of alot of stuff. On the big gray targets from what I understand there is Reactor M-Div and the engineroom M-Div (I don't know what they are called) that work on the secondary.  They have more specific areas where they work/stand watch. An ex-Reactor Machinist Mate I work with said he only had to work in the engineroom1 or 2 times in the 4 years he was onboard. I personally liked the variety of tasks and equipment. I also believe it better prepared me for working in the real world after the Navy.

[ender17]

It's actually kinda easy.  The primary side mechanics are in Reactor Mechanical Division (RM-Div, Shiny Pipers).  The secondary side mechanics are in Machinery Division (M-Div).  Although some carriers are trying to get RP to stick (Reactor Propulsion).  Just about every secondary mechanic will never use that term.  We refuse to be called anything but M-Div.

I really liked being on a carrier.  See, I didn't (still don't) agree with a boat that sinks on purpose.  Oh I know, as long as the ratio equals one you are good.  That and it submerges, not sinks.  I don't care.

[Marlin]

Hmm, this is a tough question to answer without potentially offending the sensitive types out there.

Don't volunteer submarines until you are in Prototype, then you can ask the sea-returnee instructors about their experiences.

I volunteered for subs in boot, but that was in the fashion I joined the Navy, one big shotgun blast.

Nuke? What's a nuke? Ok I'll do that.

Machinist Mate? What's an MM, ok sign me up.

Subs? Page-13? What's that. Ok, I'll do that too.

I had no idea.

Best decisions I ever made.

However, nukeworker.com was not available to me in 1996, so do some research and find out for yourself.

I don't remember volunteering, but apparently I did. With the Cold war in full swing and a sub fleet amost double the one today and many fewer Aircraft carriers, over half of all graduating nukes went to subs. I do not regret sub service and everyone who pinned on his Dolphins joined a small community with a great heritage. One of the members of my Sub Vets group here in Knoxville earned his Dolpins in 1934. At 94 he swims one hour a day and is a member of a dance club where I hear he is quite a ladies man. He survived depth charge attacks and his sub navigated mine fields while on patrol. I want to be just like him when I grow up probably to the embarresment of my grandchildren. Like many others on the boats I avoided any contact if possible with the surface fleet, they simply were too NAVY for us. As a First class PO I got a speeding ticket for an unsat haircut every other month from the tender Master at Arms. There is no doubt that the work, service commitment, and isolation on the boats is greater but most ex bubbleheads I know do not regret it.

[ChiefRocscooter]

I really liked being on a carrier.  See, I didn't (still don't) agree with a boat that sinks on purpose.  Oh I know, as long as the ratio equals one you are good.  That and it submerges, not sinks.  I don't care.

Having been on both (disclaimer says I must say only passenger on Carrier,several times thought including traps and cat shots)  I would'nt trade coners for airdales at less than a ratio of 1 for every 20 airdales!  At least the cone-heads think of themselves as part of the crew!!

5000 Friends?? How about 100 friends and a bunch of people you would not trust when your not looking!  Not that there are no thiefs on a boats, but they never last long and look like a thief when they leave

As for the sinking thing, well it better than jumping out of a good airplane and besides we get to grow beards and wear sneakers underway! now if we could just get that women on subs thing fixed we would be the place to be

[ender17]

haha.  There is a HUGE difference between Air Dept. and Air Wing.  Air Wing is squadron, and doesn't play games.  Air Dept. is actually made up of people that are part of the ship.  They play games.  The only guys in Air that I would talk to were from Air Dept.  As far as jumping out of planes...that's Army.  Well, and special forces, and S&R teams.

Beards, I can't grow one anyway.  It comes in all patchy and ugly looking.  I don't even grow one on leave, mainly because the gf don't like it. 

[taterhead]

As for the sinking thing, well it better than jumping out of a good airplane and besides we get to grow beards and wear sneakers underway!)

Since when is getting the opportunity to look like an athletic hillbilly considered an advantage?

[Fermi2]

Since when is getting the opportunity to look like an athletic hillbilly considered an advantage?

LMAO!!!!

Mike